back with us now former u.s attorney guy
lewis
guy okay this is hillary's political
dirty trick this is her water watergate
she basically you know broke into the
front door of the fbi to put this story
in there about trump russia
uh is the jury really expected to
believe that michael sussman gave trump
russia alpha bank info to the fbi out of
the goodness of his heart and for the
good of america just on his own
well i think that's a tactical mistake
by the defense in terms of trying to
argue that because frankly all roads
all criminal roads in this case lead
back to the dnc and lead back to hillary
clinton and that meeting with the fbi
was bought and paid for according to the
documents according to the records was
bought and paid for by the hillary
clinton campaign so i don't know how
much more clear you get yeah i mean if
sussman is not working for hillary then
why did he bill and you know send
expense reports to hillary's campaign
for his meeting with the fbi
if he if he's saying he had no intent to
conceal
what that from to the fbi that he was
working for hillary's campaign why
didn't you just tell him
exactly liz he's going to come in at the
end and say look uh
look the other way no harm no foul trump
got elected anyway
so really what are we doing here ladies
and gentlemen and and my only problem
look john's a smart guy i know him he's
a tough prosecutor but it
i would have
me i would have gone back and i would
have indicted a conspiracy here i think
that's his only limitation and you've
seen some of the pre-trial rulings where
the judge has said an obama appointee
the judge has said a lot of this
evidence about that leads right back to
the uh the doorstep of hillary clinton
is not going to who would you have
indicted
who would you have indicted in the
conspiracy
i would have indicted the law firm i
would have indicted the other attorney
from the law firm i would have followed
the case back to uh the campaigns of
hillary clinton and the dnc possibly
indicted hillary
well i would have looked very very
closely at it okay why not give her a
grand jury subpoena and put her in the
grand jury make her testify to the truth
or subject herself to perjury put obama
on the witness stand
well
i don't know about that i probably
wouldn't obama but i but i got to tell
you if if hillary clinton is a uh
unindicted co-conspirator she is
involved like we know she is
why not pursue her because she's what
too powerful too political i don't buy
that yeah and then we had fbi agent
scott uh scott hellman he testified
today he's saying if we knew if my team
knew that this he was sussman was coming
in on behalf of hillary's campaign that
would have changed the tenor of his
probe and it looked like you know the
the defense team is saying it was an
open secret that sussman was working for
the democrats okay so then why do you
why are you texting the fbi lawyer the
night before you were meeting with him
saying i'm not working for anyone that's
what michael sussman did that's what
john durham's proof is and the other
thing too guy is federal prosecutor
deborah britton shaw deborah britt and
shawn her opening argument guy she's
saying this that this is about the
entitlement and privilege of the hillary
campaign and her team and her lawyers
that they could just go in there and
manipulate the fbi as a political tool
for this october surprise against trump
threatening the fbi the new york times
is going to do the story anyway
this is the privilege of a team that
thought they were so powerful normal
rules did not apply to them is that
going to sway the jury
listen i think that's a powerful
argument there's no question privilege
was involved a sussman felt and he did
he was able to pick up the phone call
the general counsel to the fbi and get a
meeting
that's a pretty special thing but i
think there's an element missing here
liz
as a prosecutor did this for a long long
time i would have thrown a few more
fastballs to the head i would have
described that this does go back to
hillary clinton that this does go back
this conspiracy does lead directly back
to the dnc and these people are involved
it was the dirtiest trick of all times
in terms of politics yeah and you know
you're right it's hillary it's her
campaign right hand it's robbie mook
it's sussman it's uh christopher steele
mark elias
they stage manage what is widely
considered the worst political hit job
in u.s political history again take out
the names right
take out the names of everybody involved
that's what the prosecutors are saying
saying this is just flat out dirty
tricks that it's wrong to use the fbi as
a political tool
and you know everybody does opposition
research republicans and democrats
people get that what's wrong is lying to
the fbi and using the fbi in this way
your final word
listen if you or me or any of the good
folks watching would have walked into
the fbi lied created this whole scheme
this conspiracy
it wouldn't have just been you or me on
the other side of the v it would have
been a dozen people who were facing
charges and and that's my only complaint
about this prosecution yeah it's about
the destruction of public trust in our
institutions that's the other issue too
guy lewis you're always terrific come
back soon