hello everyone i guys doing hopefully
guys are having a wonderful day and
today we are here with a video on if
zora is dead content in old school
runescape a video i desperately need to
make because i love zoro so much so i
have to let my feelings be heard so
until now zora has been an amazing
money-making method in the game a lot of
people farmed this boss for a good
amount of time up until the last few
years where janks has really tweaked the
drop table and on top of that tweaked
how some of the items work from that
drop table which has had a really bad
backlash effect in terms of how zora is
seen in the current meta of the game
today so in this video i wanted to go
ahead and take a look at really how good
or how bad it is and where zor really
ranks in terms of
comparable money making methods in the
game most people think of warcap and
that's the one i'll be using primarily
because i feel like they are pretty good
partners in terms of kind of how people
see progression in pvm and i want to
preface all this by saying that zora is
a really tough boss to learn and it's
supposed to be players real first
challenge in pvm in my opinion at least
a significant challenge a significant
step up in terms of what you can expect
from bossing at you know the early game
with kbd and other things of the like
where you're not really doing too much
like barrows kraken and stuff like that
where it's just it's very easy pvm zore
is really the first hard hit that you
get that you really have to step up your
game and that's why i feel like it's so
important to have it be a staple or a
pillar of the med game pvm experience
because it really is something that
helps you progress and kind of grow as a
pvm so to look at where we are now we
have to understand how we got here so to
start the whole
real downfall began with the nerfing of
the normal the drop table here at zora
in early 2017 when zola drops were
nerfed to a large degree it seemed
pretty reasonable at the time honestly
most people were farming zora for their
main source of money because again this
is this is four years ago so
it's not like there was a ton of other
med to late game content at this point
we've seen a lot of other additions that
are really really good something like
voracath is absurdly good in terms of gp
per hour you also have volcano you have
a bunch of different versions of raids
and of course you have added monsters
beyond that but
the game has progressed a lot so in that
sense you know you don't have to look
for zora as much as you used to so in my
opinion at the time it was justifiable
that they nerfed the drop table because
it did seem so much better than
everything else that was around it
especially when you consider that at the
time the serpentine helm was the best in
slot melee helm essentially the toxic
blowpipe was as you know op as ever and
you have the trident of the swamp that
you can go ahead and get here so three
really important pieces of anyone's gear
setup was attainable through zulret now
at this point in the current standing
you know the serpentine helm not the
best helm toxic blowpipe also got a good
nerf the trident still good but you know
not anything that's going to make it
insanely worthwhile so at the time they
had best in slot items they also had
endless alcohols and this was really
just an op combo that giants had to do
something about you know you can't farm
alcabel's and really good items into the
game at the same time you know ideally
one or the others so they decided to go
ahead and step back in terms of the
alcohols that you would get per hour now
i mentioned the nerf to the blowpipe but
this actually had a residual effect just
beyond the nerf to the blowpipe because
the blowpipe price is of course going to
go down with that but on top of that the
blowpipe was the main thing consuming
all of these scales that were coming
into the game and so you would put a
premium on those scales to then fund
your blowpipe now the blowpipe isn't as
you know worthwhile so the scales have
come down in price accordingly and a
good bit at that now again i understand
why they have to do this in the sense
that the game needed some other range
weapons they needed to lower the ceiling
of the blowpipe because honestly it was
so good now that should have been done
sooner sure you could argue that but at
the end of the day that's not what this
video is about this is really about the
impact that it ended up having on the
zora loot table
as i mentioned before dropping the price
of the blowpipe but on top of that
dropping the price of the scales which
you get skills every single kill so it's
kind of a reliable source of income if
it's actually worthwhile back whenever
scales were worth 150 200 gp and around
there you know every kill you could
expect between
20 40k just in scales alone and so that
actually has a pretty good baseline now
that that's dropped substantially that's
no longer the case another important
factor as to how we got here was that
bots were running rampant honestly there
if you remember there are certain times
where jagex just could not handle them
you could just tell that there was so so
many bonds and honestly scale prices
would just tank for no foreseeable
reason and that would be because you
know it's just getting botted endlessly
now typically this happens in waves you
know there would be a wave of bots that
come in jagex will then start to take
notice they'll ban a good amount and
then you know we kind of play this hide
and seek game where bots just kind of
flow in and out through zora so that's
always been something we've had to keep
an eye out for it was rumored at one
point that they could lock azura behind
song of the elves which in my opinion
made a ton of sense i'm not sure why
that never did end up happening at this
point zora isn't as op as it was so i'd
imagine it's less of a factor but even
then i feel like that sort of change
would be insanely valuable in the sense
that if anyone wanted to bought it in
the future they would have to you know
build a really nice account and then
risk that really nice account to then be
able to bot zora so i think that if they
were to upgrade zora make it a bit
better and fit it more into the meta of
the game they could do so if they locked
it behind something like song of the
elves and another downside that i
haven't yet mentioned is that because
the blowpipe got nerfed thus dropping
scale prices that also drops the prices
of the other uniques on the table
because the magic fang the tanzanite
fang and the serpentine visage can all
be dismantled into zoro scales and those
zoro scales once they're less in price
then would cause the uniques to go down
in price because there's so many of the
uniques that they're not really valuable
for what they do they're valuable
because they can be turned into scales
so not only did the scales take a hit
the uniques took a hit and the regular
drop table has taken a hit at this point
so everything has reduced substantially
so that's the backstory on how we've
gotten here and how the situation has
arrived where it has now i'm going to
compare vorkat to zora and kind of show
you why i think that zora has just
entirely lost its place in the game so
for a while zora and forecast were kind
of seen as almost the same thing in
terms of gp per hour personally i used
to say back in the day that you know
it's kind of just do whatever you like
because they make essentially the same
amount of money and i would kill zora
because i mean i find it to be more
enjoyable a more entertaining boss fight
but i don't think that's any more the
case so now if we look at the gp per
hour for both of these they actually
will appear pretty close but i'll
explain why that isn't the case so for
zora maybe you get 30 kills per hour
which is a really high amount and the
average loot per kill is 102k that means
you come out to about three mil gp per
hour with voracath 25 kills per hour
again a pretty high amount you could
definitely do higher but a pretty high
amount the wiki says 121k per kill so
we'll use that and that puts us at 3.25
mil per hour so zora actually
technically makes a little bit more now
in this situation i'd imagine that zora
it's probably harder to reach 30 kills
per hour than it is with 4 catholic 25
really depends on your gear your setup
your experience all of that but i'd say
if anything zora is bumped up higher
here than it should be
because i wanted to give it that nice
edge you know i wanted to make it seem
worthwhile but in reality is that the
case probably not because not only is it
hard to attain that amount of kills per
hour on top of that with zora you do
have to use teleport tabs if you're
going to get the amount of kills per
hour and those teleport tabs are going
to come in at at least 300k per hour
beyond that there's another 250k plus gp
per hour that you're gonna have to spend
on the zora supplies that you use
because there are just so much more
supplies being used there rather than at
work or it's just some bolts or maybe
you're even using a dragon hunter lance
and you honestly barely have to use
anything other than some food and some
potions so if we account for that alone
zora is already 500k below forecast and
i've done everything i can to make zora
look worthwhile i'd imagine if anything
it's even going to be more than 500k per
hour below at these rates on top of that
you cannot be assigned a zora task like
with forecast you can get a blue
dragon's task and then go kill 150 of
them with essentially zero time slayer
xp because you're making really good gp
per hours so you probably don't care
about slayer xp as much and with that
the thing i haven't even mentioned yet
is that zora is so much harder to learn
just infinitely harder to learn than
vorecath is with vorkath all you have to
do is just shoot the boss whenever it
throws a fireball at you you move and
whenever there's green stuff on the
ground you don't run over it and if as
long as you do that you're fine i
couldn't teach anyone how to do zora in
a nice two to three sentence little
instruction there's just no way there's
four different rotations you have to
have constant gear switching you have to
stand in the right spots you have to
have a good inventory set up with a lot
of different things that you can just
switch to at a moment's notice and
that's just so much more intense than
something like vorkath which again i've
already demonstrated makes significantly
more gp per hour so personally i find
this disheartening because as someone
who has experienced zora during its peak
and kind of seeing what the game is like
i think it's just so much more enjoyable
i think that the game should incentivize
people to you know go down a route that
is a little bit tougher to learn you
know zoro is always a really hard grind
to kind of get into while with four cath
again it's just something you kind of
plug and play you really know what to do
from the start there's not too much to
it while zoro people struggle they
really have to try to improve and become
a better player and i think that you
should be rewarded accordingly for that
and at the moment that is just not the
case and i will acknowledge that vorkath
is locked behind dragon slayer 2 but as
i mentioned earlier in this video you
know i could easily see zoro being
locked behind song of the elves if that
was the case essentially they're on the
same playing field at that point of
course not the way it currently is in
game but again i think of this more in a
bossing perspective that zoro is much
much harder to learn and figure out than
forecast is so that's where the real
imbalance is at and finally i just find
it disheartening because i do
want people to you know better
themselves not only in game but in real
life and be encouraged to take on
challenges and for people to not have
that incentive here and rather just go
the easy route and print more money
it doesn't make a lot of sense and it's
just a little saddening on my end and
you may be wondering well how could this
be fixed i mean i'm going to offer very
baseline solutions but i think they make
sense you could nerf warcats drops
because personally i see that is the
main way people are going to go at the
med level boston game and so if that's
kind of their default all the time it's
not something i'm a fan of because i
really do find the boss to be a bit
boring so i'd rather people you know
want to vary it up a good bit and so you
could nerf workout to make that happen
on top of that you could go the opposite
way and buff zora which at this point i
think is more than justified because
we've seen all these price drops and if
you just added some more alcohols to
their table i think that'd be great
because honestly there are a lot of
really bad drops at zora while forecast
you rarely ever have that and if you're
gonna buff zora like i mentioned before
you could lock it behind song of the
elves i'm not sure what the
repercussions would be in terms of
people that have already killed zora and
then might have to go do something else
to then get the rest of the access that
they're going to need i don't know how
that all works out but jagex has thought
about locking it behind some of the else
in the past so if they thought about it
i'd assume it's definitely doable and in
that case i think it's reasonable to go
ahead and go forward with it and finally
before i round it out here there's
nothing wrong with admitting that the
game needs tweaked a bit you know it
happens from time to time depending on
how the metas are kind of flowing in the
game and so this isn't a hit piece on
anything in particular this isn't to say
that anyone did something horribly bad
it's just kind of a combination of a lot
of things at large that have come
together to make the current situation
we're in and from there we can only do
our best to figure it out so that is
essentially it for this video just
wanted to share my thoughts on the
matter and kind of make a little update
video because i know i've done a lot of
zoro vs vorecath comparisons in the past
and at this point we're an entirely
different game so want to do a nice
video on that hopefully you guys enjoyed
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