utilities have been dealing with it for
years you know people do want to figure
out ways to steal electricity my name's
Don C Weber I work for Ian Guardians and
I'm a senior security analyst but
basically in order to interact with a
meter we have to have the security code
so we have to have methods to do that
once we have that security code we can
do pretty much anything that the
utilities can do so we can read the
information off of it what we call write
to tables which is write information to
it which would change the configuration
and we could run procedures and
procedures will do things such as
disconnect the meter
there are many procedures but that would
just be an example of one it's really
hard to predict what they're going to be
looking for a good example would be to
disconnect a house you know if they if
they wanted to turn a house off that in
fact if that impacts one person so it
doesn't necessarily impact the dist
ability of the grid now obviously you
know no family wants to be turned off
when they're expect not expecting to be
turned off
so this type of thing is going on out
there so criminals aren't going to
advertise that they're doing this until
they're starting to sell their services
and until and we're not going to hear
about it until utilities are open about
telling us that they're starting to see
these types of things out there