sterling silver coins silver silver
plate
sterling waited what does this all mean
what are all these comes to this but on
this tray which one do you think is
worth the most
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this week's question my name is JC
Blonsky and the owner and auctioneer
here at the Casey Oxford company in
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we're talking about silver plate
sterling silver weighted sterling and
coin silver today and kind of give a
brief rundown to what those things are
and what makes one piece worth more or
less than another and why and what are
the some of the tell-tale factors that
you can look for when you're going
through your family members the state
collection out there shopping in an
auction the state's not the first one
wherever you might be
these pieces are out there they're
available to be purchased any day in the
country or you know the more profitable
you will be a business or the better
your collection will be personally
because there are a lot of things that
are hard to discern if you don't have
the knowledge so I showed this tray of
cups and is so long and so forth and the
Mike wood field colleague of mine in
Colorado you should really talk about
weighted silver compared to sterling
silver we get that question a lot we get
a lot of confusion about that let me go
and start with that right here there's a
piece up front
looks pretty decorative what's really
interesting it is sterling silver I'm
trying to get the mark shown right here
it's not going to focus in on that but
this actually says my readers so you
know exactly what this says when other
pieces like it would say it says Fischer
which is the company you made it
sterling weighted and then there's an ID
number and a seven six nine or seven six
five and that's just the form number
--this
so this is actually sterling silver with
a weighted base so this piece right down
here is covered in sterling but the
interior is either
concrete or sand or plaster or something
to give it stability give it some help
give it some you can use it for the
creamer that it's supposed to be you can
fill it with liquid floor on your inner
coffee or your tea
and and it will be fine to be perfect
for that aspect in that application it's
drawing sobre it's a sterling coffee cup
I'm scrolling creamer it's kinda worth
some money right I mean I waited up just
for this it weighs 2.8 try-outs it's
almost 3 ounces of silver right and so
for today February 16th happy birthday
honey Stacy's her birthday today is 16
dollars and 72 cents an ounce for spot
price sterling as ninety two point five
percent up here so that makes the silver
worth fifteen dollars and 46 cents a
troy ounce so this is worth forty five
dollars right just in the silver
unfortunately in a weighted piece than
it is not correct because the majority
of the weight is the interior it's the
concrete it's the plaster is the sand
it's the plastic in newer pieces
whatever is inside there to give it that
strength less stability to be able to
sit on a table and use and pick up and
sit back down or wait the vast majority
of that weight is not valuable there's
no there's no value there's only transit
value to the weighted portion on the
creamer and because of that the silver
value in this there's still some silver
value here is probably going to be
closer to an ounce or so this is really
thin what they put over the weighted
portion is super thin it doesn't have to
have any structural integrity to it it
just has to be pretty and and then at
the top you can hear it's a pretty
hollow star there's not a lot of depth
to it there's not - you know weight to
it so there's probably an ounce of
separator and so a creamer like this is
really worth in the range of ten twelve
fifteen dollars plus you gotta take the
time of the expense of removing the base
getting rid of the byproduct
and so you have some time invested in
there and so the value of this by itself
is not very there's no a lot of elegance
with honestly by itself in an antique
shop ten or fifteen dollars and some of
you are buying music at that price
because it's just it's a pretty piece if
you like a traditional table setting
that's something you want to use let's
go to something else it's good to the
what's probably the heaviest piece on
the table this beautiful Victorian era
coffee can very strong right you can
hear that it's really heavy a pretty big
thing too it has what looked like really
good homeworks on it look at that it's
impressed hallmarks it's very easy to
get confused by that I don't know if you
can read those or not but basically all
that flash and all that glitz it's a
fancy e a fancy P a fancy N and a fancy
s which means electroplated nickel
silver
it's silver a fancy terminology for
silver plate and then there's a makers
mark behind it that crest mark to the
right over here that's it maker's mark
almost irrelevant there's not much value
to it this way six point two off so if
you're a walk through an estate Sala
hallmarks and thought it was sterling
you would think there's a lot of silver
that's six ounces is gonna be a $90 of
the silver net the reality is it's a
late Victorian area it's probably
actually been replated it's very clean a
very the decorations not as crisp and so
it doesn't have my guess as it has been
replated sometimes the 80s or 90s I was
very common a very popular to do at that
point and it doesn't really affect the
value one way or the other it doesn't
negate the value it doesn't add a lot of
value either this piece if you were to
see this at an antique shop in a state
sale you're probably looking at a five
to twenty dollar fee right ten to twenty
dollars it's a nice Victorian piece good
decoration on it has not been
monogrammed which does help valiant it's
got the cartouche on both sides it has
not been monogrammed you can easily add
a monogram to that and give it as a gift
on award or presentation piece today and
we see that a lot
when I don't have my shot I saw a lot
people look for old solar pieces both
plated and sterling there was not
monogrammed and they could put you know
you know thank you or a dis an important
date on there and given us a gift today
today antique piece with a modern
engraving and the value is so kind of
nominal I mean even as high as retells
25 or $30 that's cheaper than buying
something new that wouldn't have the
same character even though that's been
replated so let's go to something else
let's look at all right the sort of this
one it's pretty easy I mean this is a
pretty stout heavy piece I mean you can
tell us a lot of no it has good weight
to it
fancy handle but there's some really
crazy marks in the bottom and this is
the oldest piece I want to show you
today and you can see all these pieces
on our current auction if you get our
website KC option company comm you can
see all these pieces and a lot of
pictures and detailed photographs of all
the hallmarks and more information this
piece here and usually money it's made
in 1745 by gurney and cook in England
and this combination of marks it
illustrates that let me see if I can so
the most important mark to look for is
the lion pathologies right there that
line passant is what's called is an
indication that this is ninety two point
five percent pure silver it doesn't say
sterling no and that doesn't have any
numbers other thing is 92 percent fear
it has a lion passant and that marking
correlates to a silver standard other
marks on here we have a leopard head we
also have this letter K right there that
is the date letter in in England and the
UK the and this is still in effect today
and released starting in the 16th
century they started using as st. Mark's
it was legally if you produced silver of
any sort or gold you had to register for
and receive an assay mark from the
government stating that you and that way
you were legally sawing wood you're
representing what you were selling
legally
and buyers were comfortable and
confident in that you were selling an
actual piece of sterling silver that's
what that lion passant means the date
letter tells you when it was issued and
if you look online and there's many good
websites that have information about
English hallmarks of the date system
they'll all online you can tell they
changed the style of the cartouche that
are read to every 27 years because
there's 26 letters and they'll flip that
used all 26 letters there go uppercase
genitive uppercase or lowercase in the
cartouche then change the cartouche and
the thought and do it again so every 50
to 53 years you have a different
completely different setup there's also
a city mark and then the mark in the
center on this is a makers mark that
gurney at Cook so this is 1745 this way
and this is the heaviest this is even
heavier than the silver plated piece so
a lot of people will pick this up and
think that it's plated simply because of
they have to it's almost 8 troy ounces
eight ounces of silver in this to make
this cut so just in the silver value you
know fifteen dollars or so now it's
times eight that's $120 just in the
silver value of this cup which doesn't
look that much different than this cup
that's worth fifteen or twenty dollars
so you can test you can see how
important it is to know what those marks
are the difference of value is drastic
it's ten times the value on this one
then this one just in the that in the
silver weight alone is worth 10 times
more than what this cup is retail this
cup here is probably worth retail in the
four or five hundred dollar range
because it's from 1745 it's 18th century
that's a good early piece of silver that
a lot of collectors and dealers are
about coveting in our option and if you
have pieces like that this has a crest
engraved on the front you could probably
do some reason to find out what that
crest represents but it doesn't generate
a lot of value something else to keep in
mind when you're looking at this is a
really fancy looking piece right here
looks and this is sterling I will drop
right to the Frick but there are no
marks lovato okay so
I know it's thrilling however my body is
not feeling well hallmarks can be placed
anywhere on a piece I grabbed this one
in particular because it's got a lot of
fancy you know engraving work but the
whole blocks are basically hidden in
amongst the decoration and hopefully
don't focus it on that I don't know if I
can do that somehow or another there you
can kind of see the cartouche is in the
middle of the floral engraving those are
the hallmarks and this cup here was made
in 1827 by Adam Bellamy savory against
English peas who saw the hallmarks go
online you can find all kinds of
resources on English hallmarks so we
know this was made in 1827 by Adam
Melanie savory and it is against
sterling silver and it weighs like four
ounces so there's $60 and silver here
again it doesn't look nearly as
impressive as this one really this is
more stout this is a lot more presence
this is really delicate looking has nice
can work in it but you can see the value
is four or five times just in the silver
value of this compared to this value
here because it's plated finally I want
to show you a piece of coin silver so
this is just a really simple little mint
julep cup is what they're most often
Liebherr often referred to completely
plain as I said except for the beaded
rims on the top and bottom a little dent
right there and this one just says this
was actually a pretty well marked
jacquard and co st. louis coin on the
bottom and you can even see little
dimples in the silver and you can see
that really clearly in this cup right
here when you start to look at a lot of
old silver all that waviness on the
silver well that's actually from the
hand planishing I swung the hammering of
the piece by the silversmiths back in
the day this mark was used 1837 1848 at
st. Louis oh it's a Missouri coin silver
piece
coin silver is generally regarded as 90%
pure coins are 90% pure that's what they
then
in from for American coinage and coin
silver was made by a silversmith you
would bring the silversmith let's say or
cut like this you probably would bring
well it's three and a half troy ounces
so if you had silver dollars which were
Alps you probably took him four silver
dollars and he took and play niscitam
bow made him to do a sheet metal I took
a half a coin kept that for himself and
put the other three and half ounces in
here and his fat his half a dollar his
fifty cents is what he made this cup for
in exchange for the cup is often times
how it worked they could buy silver and
do it that way so there's a trade and
there's also about rent purchase
available again three now houses of silk
oh sterling silver you know so it's 90%
pure three times that makes so the
difference in this in the coin silver
piece and a sterling silver piece right
now is about 40 cents an ounce just in
the silver value this is worth fifteen
dollars and five cents an ounce this is
worth fifteen dollars and forty-five
cents an ounce so you can see just that
little difference on a larger grouping
can make a big difference ten pieces or
a half an ounce ten ounces of the coin
tells us of sterling you're talking
about five dollars in difference not
like a lot but silver is oftentimes
treated as a commodity and five dollars
off for thousands as a prophet or not
profit for a day on silver buyers so
this is three and a half ounces of coin
silver worth in the range of 4550 two
dollars or so just in the silver I
expect this cup to bring between two and
three hundred dollars because it has a
regional interest it's going to appeal
to Missouri collectors Missouri's silver
collectors st. louis collectors
st. louis silver collectors and then
just quite silver collectors in general
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but just a recap if you have any
questions please let me know even though
this looks very much like the rest of
them it's the least valuable piece on
the table it's silver plate you like to
learn the hallmarks and once you start
looking at them closely you can see
those kinds of things worth far more
than their mouth now
absolutely done and most silver at this
price point is worth more than the
silver value today these are good
antique pieces pieces from the 50s and
60s and it's borderline absolutely I
show some pretty nice pieces today and I
was kind of deliberate in that it's
where we're fortunate and we have these
items in our option right now consigned
to us from a collection from Kansas but
yeah so working worth a lot more than
silver value this piece is really just
worth the silver in it unless something
wants to use it there's not much more
value than the silver there like I said
I want $15 don't figure there's gonna be
about an ounce so we're in that once you
get wrong with it and you bring anything
else up that has just the silver value
but that's a there's a we kind of look
at things on a piece by piece basis and
we we like to give buyers the
opportunity to make that decision for
themselves we can we know a refinery in
town we can take it all there and have a
scrap dog that's all its really worth
but you'd like to give our buyers an
opportunity saying no we I really like
that I want I like that for myself
personally even if they're paying with
the silver value it stays out of the it
doesn't become a coin it'll become a
ingot next week it becomes a part of it
a stamp and Ireland it becomes a private
collection learn a research and figure
out the English hallmarks it makes it
can make a huge difference in value for
your pieces of even--even it's a
collection of your own are you looking
to add to your collection knowing the
differences and that those hallmarks are
and learning which stuff which hallmarks
look like sterling parks and which ones
are can make you a lot of money and make
your collection with a lot more
otherwise it's a little afternoon here
in Kansas City it's again chilly today's
only warm over the weekend if you're in
Kansas City we had 65 to 70 degrees just
pay on
in February which is kind of unusual
today it's much cooler right this week
as are the 50s and 60s so it's going to
be kind of fun anyway I think you've all
watching and have a great afternoon and
if you have any questions please let us
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