why the heck would anybody buy gold on a
runescape private server look i get
buying gold on runescape okay people
don't have a lot of time but
the reason for private servers is
everything is meant to be super fast and
easy to obtain
but check this out this is one of the
biggest runescape black markets and they
have a section
specifically for private server gold and
look at the threads of people selling
and buying on here 10 minutes ago 14
minutes ago 25 minutes ago today today
today yesterday
the volume of private server gold that's
being traded
just in this one black market is
actually astounding and in this video i
want to talk to the people
who are farming the gold who are buying
the gold and who are selling the gold to
really understand why this market exists
in the first place
i think you're gonna find this very
enjoyable before we get into the meat
and potatoes of this video my girlfriend
and i are creating runescape figurines
basically everything sold out because
we're a little behind on orders except
jads we have a handful of those left
we're now making them out of resin using
airbrushing and soft body acrylics
they're super smooth it looks super
clean
and they're super heavy they feel like a
glass or ceramic i think people are
quite surprised when they get them
we've also put the new vorecast up for
pre-orders there's only 25 slots
available for that pre-order and there's
20 kbd
pre-orders available as well i think
they look really nice in addition mouse
pads are here
somebody in the comments called these
the god tier ones link for the store is
in the description thank you so much
let's get back on with the video okay i
talked to one of the big
sellers he got me in contact with his
big supplier and i'm friends with a once
private server owner from a previous
video
the first question i had is why are
people buying gold
and i learned that about 50 or 60
percent are buying it strictly to gamble
with it
if you have any experience with private
servers you know that they have a gambit
of different games of chance they've got
poker
they've got roulette wheels they've got
the typical dice games
whole shebang and so this makes a lot of
sense to me because number one a lot of
gamblers just like to feel like they're
king they like to get on a winning
streak they like to feel like they're on
top of the economy
and private servers provide a low
barrier of entry you don't need max
stats like an old-school runescape to go
to the dual arena and also it's a pretty
cheap way to fuel your addiction because
runescape private server gold isn't
really worth that much and then there's
the other people and he told me that
these are people that actually just
generally enjoy playing the servers but
they don't want to go and earn the gold
themselves so they come to third-party
sellers so they can just buy like better
items and enjoy the game at a higher
level
i think that's respectable but things
get a little more interesting when we
start talking about how the private
server owners are preventing this and
how this gold is actually being acquired
to sell
if you spend any amount of time looking
at private server gold selling and
buying threads it's like
every one of the suppliers is
advertising that they're looking for a
bulk supplier
so that leads me to my next question
where the heck is this gold
coming from the supplier i talked to
gave me a list of
ways that gold comes into these
suppliers hands number one
it comes from gamblers but not in large
amounts these are not your bulk
suppliers
so let's talk about bulk suppliers and
how they acquire the gold
the number two way that people get gold
to sell on private servers is an attack
known as credential stuffing
so tons of runescape private servers
that have come and gone have had really
poor security
and that means that tons of their user
accounts have been compromised
exposing their usernames and passwords
and plain text
so what some of the people who are
selling private server gold do
is they get access to these illegal
websites that let them search through
these hacked databases
and they'll target rich players in the
game they'll look up their username on
one of these services
and hope that their password has been
leaked in the past and hope that they're
stupid enough to use that same password
on this new private server and so
they'll hack the account they'll steal
all of the gold and they'll sell it off
he told me that while this produces more
gold in the sale economy than gambling
does
it's definitely not as prevalent as the
next two methods which are really the
cash kings
supplying this industry that being said
the third method is dupes
so somebody will find a dupe in the
private server
and then they'll be extremely diligent
and not over abusing it
they'll treat it like a slow bleed
they'll take just enough to sell to the
suppliers but not go crazy with it
because they want to
melt it as long as they absolutely can
without being caught
because if they get caught the dupes
going to be fixed and unless they find a
new one they've lost
all their free money and this is
actually quite common on private servers
because they don't have large
development teams
or even quality assurance staff so dupes
just slip through
a lot more and there's people that play
private servers for the specific reason
of finding dupes and abusing them
to sell the gold this provides another
problem though
because private servers have smaller
communities it makes tracing trades a
lot
easier so we're going to talk more about
this later
but just keep in mind that these people
duping have to be
really careful that their trades don't
get traced back to them because then
it's very easy for one of the server
moderators
to invisibly observe what they're doing
and fix the do
and the very last way that he told me
gold is getting into the market
is actually from corrupt mods on the
server so mods
on private servers have full reign of
spawning items
and so if one of them is feeling a
little corrupt and they want to make
some extra money for themselves they can
just spawn it
and go sell it to one of the suppliers
he said this doesn't happen often
but when it does it can happen for a
long time until they're eventually
caught
he said typically it's not the server
owners themselves that do this because
they really care about the economy and
their private servers and they don't
want to ruin that
and they've invested a lot of time into
making their servers so it's often
one of their staff members that ends up
abusing their power in this way
you got to remember that these staff
members are really just volunteers they
don't get paid anything to moderate
runescape private servers they often
start as players
and then they become friendly with the
owners and the owners are like okay
we'll just make you an admin now so you
can help moderate stuff
so before we talk about how server
owners are actively trying to stop this
i want to talk about how profitable the
runescape private server gold market
really is
so with respect to how much money they
make there's two different people to
look at
there is your suppliers those are the
people
selling the gold to the gold sellers and
then there's the gold sellers themselves
who make all the money
in the spread that is the difference
that they can make from buying the gold
versus selling the gold however many
pennies that works out to be the gold
seller that i talked to told me that
there is a significantly better spread
in private server gold
than there is in runescape gold and that
really just boils down to the fact that
there's not
as many people selling private server
gold as there is runescape gold
there's way less competition so less
people are competing on price
now that being said it's a double edged
sword because the overall amount of
sales is lower
meaning that these guys are making
significantly less money than the old
school runescape gold sellers
so the gold seller that i talked to told
me that he makes like
50 to 100 a month on a good month he
doesn't really do very much
runescape private server gold compared
to the old school runescape gold that he
sells
now with respect to the people that are
supplying the gold sellers i heard that
they can make
you know in rare exceptions over a
thousand dollars a month if the server's
new they find a good dupe
but in general the big suppliers in this
market are only making two or three
hundred dollars a month maximum
the size of runescape private server
gold markets is so much smaller than old
school runescape there just
isn't room for people to be millionaires
off of this
now what about the server owners how do
they feel about people
real world trading on their servers and
what are they doing about it well the
first thing i was told is that it's a
really good sign if people are real
world trading on your private server
and that it means that you've been
really successful and you've got a big
server but number two it's detrimental
to the economy
because the people who want to get gold
to sell are doing this credential
stuffing and they're doing this duping
and so the server owners have to
actively combat this with respect to
credential stuffing most of the big
servers have solved this issue by
introducing two-factor authentication
like old-school runescape has and so as
long as the players sign up they're good
but duping
is really the big one here because it
can absolutely tarnish and ruin the
economy if it gets out of hand
and so how do they actively prevent this
well the number one way is that the
private service staff go undercover as a
potential buyer
they get some gp from one of the sellers
and when the account comes and trades
them in game
they'll take a look at all the logs they
have for that account who they have been
trading who they have been staking
whatever
and try to assess the accounts that
they're farming the gold on
because these gold farmers use a gambit
of accounts to try and avoid bans and
they use things like vpns they try to
make sure that their mac addresses
aren't the same all this stuff so the
private server owners have to try and
track them down
and then if they do successfully track
down their other accounts they'll
actually monitor them
in secret for a while instead of banning
them right away to try and figure out
like what dupe they might be abusing
that way they can actually patch it
because if they just outright ban them
the person will make new accounts and
it's still a problem
now because of this ban rates are
actually really high for selling gold on
private servers
and so i learned that gold sellers very
rarely actually hold the gold themselves
when a buyer comes to them they will
reach out to their list of gold
suppliers on the private server and see
if anybody can actually fulfill the
order themselves that way they don't
risk ever getting banned they truly act
like a brokerage in that sense
on top of that the sellers of private
server gold have also introduced minimum
order quantities
to try and prevent these server owners
from being able to so easily figure out
who they are in game
and so you can't just go and buy one
dollar worth of private server gold
you have to get usually about 50 dollars
worth at a single time it varies from
seller to seller but it's a good chunk
of change
and that makes it much more expensive
for these private server owners to go
and try and track down the sellers in
this way now one other clever thing that
i learned that these private server
owners do
is they'll go undercover as the gold
suppliers they'll sell gold to them
and then the second they receive the
money they'll just ban the account that
received it off of the private server so
they don't ruin their economy and they
actually get money for the gold that
they just spawned
the gold seller that i was speaking to
told me that for this reason he always
tries to source gold
from suppliers who he has already dealt
with in the past so he doesn't end up
getting scammed in this way
and that is all the details i managed to
wrangle out of these private server gold
traders i hope you enjoyed this video
link to those figurines is in the
description my girlfriend and i started
creating these instead of the typical
t-shirt flogging thing that people do so
thank you all so much for the support
and until next time love peace and
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