before you reach for that bottle of
mouthwash or yes even certain toothpaste
consider this almost all oral hygiene
products on the market today are
actually killing off the good bacteria
of your oral microbiome
thanks so much for joining us today
we've been talking off camera and I've
gotten to know you a bit can you can you
share with everybody your background
because it's it's fascinating and I
think people understanding where you're
from what you went through your success
story and how you
you know living the dream or not living
the dream I think is really important so
go ahead so uh thank you for giving me
the opportunity Dr gundry uh I actually
am from New Delhi India originally I
grew up in a toothbrush manufacturing uh
family we we my father and my brothers
make toothbrushes for a living
toothbrushes for multinational
corporations including the most famous
names in the world but like any Indian
dad my dad wanted me to study medicine
and wanted me to in India it's either
you got to be engineer or a doctor or
something
to kind of com be a complete son so I
went to uh School in India and Russia
and
things were not really
socio-economically right in Russia as I
moved to the United States
and I started Dr refresh the original
company which I sold early on in 2012
and I'm a true American Dream living
liver or American
I lived American dream
I knew very quickly that if I want to be
successful I need to innovate and bring
my products so I innovated a lot of
products I had 58 patents in my old
company which I saw
and at that point I uh taught at the end
of 2010 approximately 2009 uh while I
had achieved a lot of success I'd also
messed up a lot of my body I forgot the
basic principles of medicine I was
eating a lot of junk food at fast food
restaurants I was working 12 14 hours
sitting down at my desk not moving I was
drinking sodas I thought this is the
American way I kind of got influenced
I've left what I grew up with and I kind
of overly got overly Americanized like
you know how somebody gets into
something new and they get like overly
on
Americanized so where I was literally
I'd grown to over 200 pounds I started
on a lot of pharmaceutical Medics
medications uh almost 14 pills a day to
to treat every possible lifestyle
disorder you can get at a very early age
in life and
I one day woke up and I had a wake-up
call actually which was anxiety attack
which the doctor thought initially when
I went to the ER that it's a heart
attack or something and I was 39 at that
time and that is when I realized one of
one of my friends all my friends or my
classmates or doctors either in America
or in India and he said hey do you know
the king of
Sudan I said no I don't know he said if
you don't know him he spent all his life
becoming the kingdom or who the hell
cares about you you need to just take
care of yourself and go back to your
route so I actually sold the business I
took a year off and I
uh cleansed my whole body by doing the
mindful things I started eating very
mindfully whatever I put in my temple uh
is very important so I want to eat
everything literally I was looking
through your book and practically I this
book is all about Indian sect called
Jane it's practically the Jane diet
where
you refute a lot of even because you
don't like tomatoes and you don't like
things that grow in under the ground or
something exactly that diet and I'm very
impressed because that diet has been
around for thousands of years and that's
a very special clan that lives for a
long life and they have longer lives and
they really do a good job in maintaining
their
system so I went on kind of like similar
kind of right basically eating
everything in moderation I believe
everything in moderation including
moderation so that said I also started
doing yoga every day which and I learned
yoga I became a certified yoga
instructor double certified in us and
ndi I started
um really focusing on yoga and walking
every day and making sure I live healthy
I lost almost 35 40 pounds at that point
and I literally lost every medication uh
all 14 pills for for quite some time I
just started on one lately but apart
from that literally lost everything and
and
um I I feel
everybody can do it if they really focus
and make it a point to do it right and
uh it's it's a product of choice not of
reason I know we live in a society where
um there is it's a society of abundance
because people in certain countries they
don't have abundance and here we have
abundance because whenever we go to uh
Beverly Hills to a restaurant there's
like menu full of 20 delicious things
and you're like how much can I eat so
it's all about the choice that you make
and once you be mindful of those choices
you start to become better life I feel I
think he said something important that I
say all the time which is a very
important point in ayurvedic medicine in
that this is your temple and I always
say look this is the only house you're
ever going to live in this is it
um maybe we'll come back I'm coming back
as one of my dogs if I come back but
you're right this is the temple this is
it if we spent as much attention time
money on taking care of this Temple this
house that we do taking care of our car
taking care of our clothes and
incidentally you look fabulous today
and our actual you know the house that
we we live in it's amazing what can
happen if we just put that attention
there absolutely it doesn't take a lot
of time it's all about mindfulness it's
just about paying attention that's all
yeah so I think you know I wanted you to
tell that story because it's so
important I mean you you were living the
American dream in the best way and the
worst way and and it came back to bite
you
um so you know good for you to to
recognize that and and a lot of times
it's it's this one episode uh that you
know change it it's almost in addiction
you you obviously have to hit rock
bottom
um to you know I wish your listeners
actually don't have to hit the rock
bottom and learn from other people's
mistake like my mistake and take care of
it before they hit the rock bottom
because sometimes you never come out of
the Rock Bottom not everybody's that
lucky I was that lucky that I could come
out of it but not everybody is so I
would suggest take this with a grain of
salt and start doing the right thing
today I mentioned uh are you Vedic and
you're an ayurvedic practitioner I
actually don't practice
ayurveda but I I have learned ayurveda
I've learned yoga and I've learned
medicine uh your regular breasted
medicine so I but I have learned
ayurveda but I don't practice on day to
day I'm running a business day-to-day
and so yeah and so let's talk about your
business because my my wife is a huge
fan uh and uh when she's listening to
this and we're going to get into my
wife's practice in a second so tell me
about Guru Nanda and the oral microbiome
what's the three pillars that you set up
for this so first of the for the name
Guru Nanda a lot of people think it's a
strange name and so Guru in Indian
language I'm from India Guru in Indian
language means teacher and my name is
Punit Nanda
puneet means pure Ananda basically is a
bliss so pure Bliss was kind of my uh
the meaning of my name but uh so I call
it Guru Nanda was the name of my yoga
studio
and um
which I opened after selling the company
I I just wanted to
selfishly take care of myself more than
anything else and and I thought if I'm
in this business of yoga then I
practically will keep doing it teaching
others and learning myself and doing
myself every day but then I realized
that a lot of young women who were
buying essential oils from companies
like Doterra and youngling living which
are multi-level marketing companies
which are great products were using them
very often and successfully and one of
the oils actually changed my thought
about it because I wasn't uh initially a
Believer because I always believed in
Western science
um but then I uh oregano oil because I
used to have a lot of allergies I was
sneezed 50 to 100 times a day that
oregano oil changed my view about
essential oils and that is when I
literally got inspired by the supplies
how the supply system works from Farm to
bottle and I replicated that Supply
system but for retail where I cut out
all the middleman and my whole idea was
I'd made my American Dream Come True
with my first company sale I want to do
something for people so that I can
bridge the gap
everything I do today is to bridge the
gap I want to bring
Whole Food kind of products to uh come a
smaller Discount Store like a Dollar
Tree or a Big Lots or a Walmart of the
world so that I can reach the masses
with natural high quality products
because most of the people who actually
sell really high quality products sell
them at Whole Foods they never then they
mark them at 90 percent
or 100 like literally triple the prices
versus then there are a lot of products
that call themselves coconut oil but if
you look on the label behind the first
ingredient is mineral oil there is and
if you read the whole thing the last
ingredient on the list is coconut oil so
practically they are selling and but
they're calling it coconut oil then
there's a lot of air freshener cans that
you look at big stores even big stores
and they say with made with essential
oils you put it under a GC test gas
chromatography test there is point one
percent uh real essential oils all they
do is they are using chemicals all sort
of chemicals that some of them fall
under carcinogenic lists even and
putting a drop of essential oil and
calling them essential oils so that is
what is going on it's a marketing
gimmick so people need to be aware
either you are in this camp or you're in
this Camp you can have fragrance product
and one ingredient being essential oil
and then there are certain companies who
are selling online that just write
everything fake so it's very hard
because there is no particular monogram
so it's very hard to differentiate
between the companies which is making a
lot of people
not be happy with some of the products
that there are in the market well you
know we've never talked about essential
oils on my podcast
and a lot of my listeners may not
certainly have heard of them but may not
know okay what the what the heck do you
do with them do you smell them do you
put a drop on your forehead to relieve
your migraine do you put it under your
tongue do you drink a bottle of
essential oil how did you use oil of
oregano and I'm a big fan of oil oregano
the real stuff how did you use it and to
turn around your allergies so I actually
would tell you I was in Greece at a
Distillery and I was in a business
meeting I had forgotten all my regimen
of
steroids and claritins of the world and
I wouldn't say names I've forgotten the
regimen of steroids and cetirizine
dihydrochloride kind of
brand name products
and I uh I realized I was sneezing like
crazy 100 times in that Distillery and
that old man 94 year old guy walked up
to me and said you're in bad shape he
was the dad of that distiller and he
said what if I gave you a couple of
drops of oregano oil and he put a few
drops of couple of drops of oregano oil
in a 16 ounce bottle shook it up and
gave it to me and told me to Chuck the
whole thing in I said okay I did it
afternoon I did it again and when we
went out to dinner I did it back again
next day morning
I was going to take medication but I
literally forgot because I did not
sneeze and I was like shocked I said how
in the world could this happen because I
had gone to every major doctors in
Cedars UCLA mayo and nothing was helping
me in and this was all gone and I I
thought this could be a fluke so I tried
it a few times and anytime I would get
that bout of sneezing I'd do that and it
would go away so it may not work for
everybody I think essential oils is not
a pure science it's like our four or
five fingers are not the same nothing is
going to work for every everybody so you
have to hit and try number one number
two you shouldn't drink oils like I did
because that's that could harm your
kidneys and liver and even if you are
doing it you have to do it on oils like
which are already something that you put
like oregano you put on your pizza
peppermint you actually eat peppermint
chewing gum or something like that so
you know that these are okay but then
there are certain oils like that you
never ingest or never takes because they
have they are not that uh they could
poison your they could harm your liver
really bad or your hump your kidney so
ingestion is something I don't promote
uh using it on skin so these oils
essential oils have a very uh they are
more Vapor oils they are volatile
components basically and these volatile
components
if they are added to a carrier oil a
fatty oil you can use it on skin if the
dilution is at least no more than
between two to five percent so if two to
five percent of our essential oil is
mixed with a fatty oil like olive oil
which you learn like and love I've seen
in in your book
that is a great uh carrier oil you use
olive oil add a couple of drops of let's
say uh a lavender oil and rub it on your
temples your feet before you sleep at
night and if you do it for another 21
days minimum uh use some olive oil add
five percent lavender rub it on your
feet you'll have a great night's sleep
and you'll see that within uh 21 days
your sleep cycle will start to improve
by at least about 15 minutes to an hour
and I have experienced it myself and
these oils have been tested if you look
at lavender the main three components
are Lena
lulacetate and lavender acetate and Lena
Lula has been used in a lot of actual
medications to actually give get you
de-stressed and get you better sleep and
stuff like that so they extract parts of
the biocomponents of the oil and use it
everywhere same with peppermint
peppermint has menthol in it and Menthol
is being used in your tiger bombs of the
world and your other things of that that
actually give you hot and icy hearts of
the world yeah
so all these uh components is where all
these essential oils is where some of
these bio components are extracted
isolated and used so that the companies
can actually use uh to make a specific
product so that they can actually mark
it up
interesting
all right so that's essential oils thank
you for explaining that uh now let's
talk about the oral microbiome which we
kind of introduce this podcast with
most people who follow my podcast know
how important are gut microbiome I in my
books talk about the holobiome which is
not just the gut microbiome but the oral
microbiome the skin microbiome and most
of us know I hope that we actually have
a microbiome that floats around us in in
space and that one kind of fun thing is
that there's a theory that I like that
personal space is where my holobiome
meets your holobiome and that's the spot
that we interact I absolutely think
you're on to something right because
number one
when you look at it microbiomes are what
actually are are your fighter cells for
fighter products fight fighters for you
microbiomes are your Fighters yep
and
as you focus on gut the gut really
starts from your mouth because every the
digestive system starts here because you
start salivating you start actually
digestion right here so if your mouth if
you're using like in the 70s there was a
mouthwash that came out with a tagline
saying if you don't burn it doesn't work
so a lot of people who are in the World
War II era grown up gone to the military
schools they thought they were going to
be macho man or Macho Woman by using
something that is going to burn so uh
and then no pain no gain was the main
thing so in India there was one one
toothbrush company that had come out
with a slogan where they said if you
don't bleed that means you're not taking
off the bad
jumps out of your mouth so they were
unscriptious kind of things going on
early in the day then there's another
company that saw an opportunity came out
with a satal freedom chloride product
CPC they call it and cetyl freedom
chloride is another anti-microbial agent
so they came out with a little tagline
saying all the benefits without the burn
but both of the things did the same 99.9
percent of the bacteria was eradicated
now it's almost like uh let's say if you
had four bad guys in Los Angeles you go
and bomb in time not Los Angeles and New
York it all out you'll get kill a lot of
talent also and 98 of the bacteria in
the mouth are good bacteria it's just a
couple of Point bacteria that are not
good like certain bacteria like
streptococcus mutants the bacteria that
actually actually cause cavities
um they also
keep in check if your good bacteria is
around means otherwise they'll have a
field day so having a healthy micro
microbiome is like having a healthy
Society so keeping a keeping the bad
guys handcuffed in jails and keeping the
good guys flourishing that's what a good
uh Society does and that's what you need
to do with healthy microbiomes all right
so the question is how do you keep the
healthy guys happy what what do you do
so first of all don't kill them
good advice so whenever you uh Go and
Kill the good guys they'll be uh bad
guys one is equal to 10 good guys so
they'll start to rule that's how it
works in the world and what I would do
is don't kill the uh everything in
vicinity by when I talk about oil
pulling
oil pulling has been around for hundreds
and thousands of years in Indian
ayurveda and what oil pulling does is
it actually
oil by inherent nature goes and seeps
everywhere and our bacteria are mostly
as a way to protect themselves like as
humans we form our own huts and we live
behind the heart if there is a storm we
go inside the hut something like that
and bad bacteria they keep forming
biofilms and they tend to live behind
them biofilm on top of biofilm on top of
biofilm is black
and when you wake up in the morning
let's say you take a little dry brushes
experiment don't do it every day but as
experiment wet it and when you take off
the just brush it dry you'll see that
white sticky substance come out that's
black now imagine if you did not have a
good Coral hygiene and you mechanically
don't remove it because you're not
brushing what would happen you you would
actually have calcified plaque which
becomes Tartar and then you'll have to
go to a dentist clinic and get the
cleaning done and literally remove break
all the plaque because behind the plaque
is residing maybe the streptococcus
mutant that is gonna go and form
cavities now you have to go to a dentist
where he has to drill and Bill you and
and in case uh you're you're taking care
of good hygiene I don't want dentists
out of business because there's nothing
that replaces them it is very important
to get yourself checked up but uh what
what I mean to say is a healthy hygiene
in your mouth leads to a healthy body
overall and
um I I think if you're not taking off
your mouth you're not taking care of
your entire body because this is where
everything begins no you're right
um in fact you can you can really expand
on that
um Dr Dale Bradison who wrote the end of
Alzheimer's and I become good friends
and you know he and others are convinced
that one of the many causes of dementia
and Alzheimer's is the mouth has has got
a direct shot to the brain it's really
only you know an inch away and that
these mouth Flora the bad guys have
access to the brain and it's this access
that causes this now you mentioned that
these bacteria form biofilms and
actually make Huts
I actually call them egg glues because
there is some evidence that some of
these oral Flora get into our
bloodstream and that when people get a
coronary calcium scan of their coronary
arteries though there's only really two
things that can make calcium in our body
one are bone making cells and the other
is actually the bacteria in our mouth
that form tartar that's calcium
and there's an interesting theory that I
like that these bacteria the calcium
that we see in the blood vessels are
actually these biofilms that are
calcified they're little igloos to
protect these bacteria and there's one
interesting study where people were
given a a mild antibiotic tetracycline
for six months along with some other
nutritional support and there was
dramatic reversal of the coronary
calcium in their blood vessels the
study's only been done once but I think
your point like applaud is that there is
so much important stuff going on in our
mouth
and we just neglect it so three kind of
major mouthwashes are there one with
alcohol uh in the market there's one
with cetylpredium chloride then the
third one most famous one is with sodium
fluoride
and uh what the oil pulling is very
different it's a pre-brushed regimen
it's not post brush for post brushing
I've actually made a product called
concentrated mouthwash and this is more
about sustainability and natural
essential oils and I'll come to that but
what oil pulling does is when you're oil
pulling you're actually seeping in
between the bioforms you're loosening
them up when you loosen up the bio films
and when you brush with them you can
actually eradicate all those biofilms in
a much better way now when the electric
toothbrushes became popular the reason
was because your own saliva was being
used as micro bullets to go and
mechanically injure the biofilms so that
the biofilms are loosened up and they
can be removed better and with oil
pulling you're practically doing the
soap same thing with more subtle way and
so the reason oil pulling name came in
existence is because they basically pull
all the bad bacteria behind the bowel
forms and loosen up the bathroom so you
can flush out their living spaces so
that you can have pave way for healthy
microbiome to exist and with this oil
pulling since it has the bases could be
coconut oil or sesame oil we have one
with coconut oil base which is a little
bit more more Americanized version
because it tastes a lot better but then
there is this ayurvedic version which is
the advanced oil pulling or the original
one so these are with sesame oil in them
and this is how it was written in the
ayurvedic text and this has a little bit
more not just oral health it is also
supposed to help detox your your entire
body and there is a science behind it
because
according to ayurveda
The Body Works on pure system
a pure system is a p for perspiration
U for urination are for respiration and
E for excretion whatever you take out
through excretion or most of your
majority of your toxins in your body
that you're eating preservatives all day
long your body is very smart it's gonna
take it out and that's excretion
urination is another quick way you eat
like Bunch load of I saw one woman
eating like 13 vitamins in the morning
13 in the afternoon 13 at night she is
being ex very expensive pee because and
now that's not required to put in your
also sometimes overloading your
essential organs like kidney and
urination is another one and then
respiration is when you sweat you go and
eat sauna you kind of detox your body
that's your body's way too respiratory
if you go to the gym you sweat it out
that's your body's way to get rid of
your toxins and you um the last one is
respiration which is when you breathe
the deep breathe that's all about yoga
when you deep breathe your oxygen
actually goes all the way to your
peripheries of your body your hands your
feet and your oxygen and there are ways
called pranayama where when you
de-breathe in certain ways it actually
the oxygen permeates your cell membrane
goes into the cell metabolic activity
takes place and the carbon dioxide is
spit out so cell repair starts to take
place at the paraphrase of the body by
deep breathing and you detox when you
metabolize better so your metabolic
activity increases so deep breathing is
another thing people may on this is
probably the most underrated thing in
the world because if you deep breathe
simple deep breathing if you deep
breathe every day very cautiously you're
actually increasing your metabolism
you're actually improving your health
subconsciously
so with uh coming back to oil pulling I
will tell you some incidents of my own
so in 2012 when I sold my company as
going to India I was having an infection
on my tooth and the doctors gave me
antibiotics he said you need to get the
inflammation down and that's your x-rays
don't look good maybe we might have to
when you come back from your trip we
might have to do a root canal on it and
I was like petrified because it means I
I said okay
um means he's a very good friend of mine
actually and uh I said okay and
I went to India to this yoga ashram and
uh I was learning ayurveda and this main
head of the place he said I told him I
have this problem and if it erupts back
there's no dental office and vicinity
for 50 100 miles so what would happen he
put me on oil pulling which is being
traditionally been used in ayurveda and
I was like it felt yucky and I said well
I I can't take the oil in my mouth but I
I did it because it was the part of the
whole routine I started doing it started
doing it it took me about a month
literally to get used to it I started it
with 30 seconds then a minute then two
minutes and slowly I started to enjoy it
and after about a month and it's been
over 10 years now
I don't pull every day but I pulled at
least four days three four days a week I
pulled during my shower time and and I
am I think this is one thing
till now I have zero root canals and
I've been able to sustain that too that
was really in a bad shape up till now I
hope I can keep sustaining it and
simultaneously I've had no other major
issues in the mouth which uh when I'm 55
so I'm basically being able to preserve
pretty much uh something that I I wish I
would have started it when I was 20 and
I would have been on the same kind of
regimen I started pretty late in life
but still it's been of great preventive
health help too for my dental health so
how long do you do it so I personally do
oil pulling on Saturday and Sunday for
about 10 minutes a day on normal days in
the morning I do it for the shower time
my shower time could be anywhere from
three to six minutes and I do it for the
time of the shower and uh I do it most
days but since we came out with this
amazing product this is one of my
favorite inventions of all time yeah yes
the reason I call it is because number
one in big bottles of mouthwash you have
you won't realize it's basically you're
transporting water all across the
country because in this big bottle of
mouthwash if it is a CPC mouthwash 98 of
the ingredient is water Aqua nothing so
it's basically you're transporting water
now when you add water to all the stuff
you have to add a very robust
preservative system because water can
catch fungus water can catch other
problems if you are not preserving
preserving it really nice so what you
have to do is you have to add a lot of
preservatives but as you know in the
mouth if you're adding uh if you're
using a mouthwash number one it's
antimicrobial which is okay once in a
while but uh then apart from that you're
adding in so many other chemicals that
are there to preserve that water-based
mouthwash so we came up with this
product it has got a very simple
ingredients and a very simple
preservative it's less than one percent
alcohol and the the most of the product
is essential oil based so the number one
essential oils are for keeping your
well-being of your breath so peppermint
oil the real peppermint because a lot of
people especially even the big companies
sees are using fake peppermint synthetic
peppermint to actually normalize The
Taste and normalize standardize the
production because peppermint oil is
crop based synthetic one is not so but
in here it's the real peppermint oil
Farm to Table and spearmint oil cardamom
oil fennel oil cardamom is used in
Indian tea and fennel is after Indian
food you eat it to keep your digestive
system and your breath in check and then
there is tea tree oil that we bring from
Australia or from South Africa which is
the Australian variety too we have clove
oil clove has been used by Indian
dentists for years to ensure this was a
almost like a uh
in days when you did not have lidocaine
and benzocaine and all that stuff glow
was the product of choice for a lot of
dentists oregano oil which I absolutely
am in love with and but we put it very
very micro dosing because small is Big
when it comes to essential oils people
don't realize
one drop of essential oil
okay let's say one drop of peppermint
oil is equal to 28 cups of peppermint
tea wow because we use 4 000 kilos of
rose petals to create one kilo of rose
oil the real rose oil is close to 15 to
20 000 a kilo versus you go and find the
rose oil on certain major website that
everybody uses for 20 bucks that's all
fragrance it's not just rose essential
oil interesting right so
um then we have also added vitamin D E
and K2 in in this apart from all these
essential oils there's one more product
which I literally
we very heavily believe it's it's
something called Jasmine oil now why
would Jasmine do anything with dental
because Jasmine is
the best possible product to keeping
your minds calm
and it is also a little bit of an
aphrodisiac truthfully because Jasmine
oil in olden days woman used to wear
jasmine flowers in their uh on their
hair so that for the first night so the
men get
aroused by it now what does it have to
do with it that little product which is
in micro dose here is probably more
expensive than the whole bottle but you
will have a feel-good feeling after
using it that you'll never have and when
you use this essential oil a base
mouthwash you put a few drops four or
five drops in a cup that comes along
with it and add some water and gargle
with a Swiss all around your mouth
it's almost like oil pulling in a way
but not really because it has water to
it and it doesn't do the exact same job
as this but what these essential oils
because of their inherent property of
being kind of being used by your body as
a plant food so they are not enemies of
the body but simultaneously because of
their inherent anti-microbial properties
they go and abstain the bad guys from
growing further while not harming the
good guys and that is how the whole
process was developed but I personally
think this is unbelievable product is
brand new we've put it in Walmart retail
stores maybe too early for
going to Walmart I should have gone to
Whole Foods and other places the reason
I went to Walmart is because I am not
bothered about making money
my main thing is how do I get to the
masses
how do I get the best product to the
masses that bridge the gap so that's my
whole thesis of being and then with this
product it's oil pulling which also has
the
um the more robust version also has all
these essential oils alongside the
coconut oil
so it helps well my you know my my wife
Penny is is a skeptic about most things
that I bring home
people send me lots of things to try
um and you have advertised on our Pro
podcast so I brought some of this home
and she said okay you know I'm going to
try that and she is such a huge fan she
does this almost every day and she will
do it up to 20 minutes at a time
and yesterday we were talking about this
because she knew you were going to be on
the show
and uh she said I used to have to get my
teeth whitened and you know you get
those trays and everything and she said
and she don't she opens her mouth she
said look at my teeth and I mean they're
pearly gorgeous she hasn't had teeth
whitening I don't know five years and
then she said let me see your teeth and
my teeth are not pearly white even
though I went to the dentist for
cleaning about three weeks ago and she
said that's what that's doing so there's
um you know thank you so much she's a
huge fan and I can tell you at least one
person you what you say she can back up
with I'm looking at your teeth actually
your teeth have very tight contacts oh
yes I am I looking at your teeth so
because they are so tight you probably
will benefit from it the most because a
lot of people don't realize when they
have tight contacts they don't it's hard
to for them to floss correct and there
is nothing they I always profess that
and this is an old saying but I'm I
always profess that you only floss the
teeth you want to keep
and
oil
is probably this uh coconut or one of
the more advanced versions if you can
get used to the taste is probably the
best thing for somebody with tight
contacts like yourself now I don't know
if you know that
um
only when I started working in this
industry 28 years ago only 11 percent of
America lost
right now that has grown because earlier
it used to be the spool floss then came
the floss pick in the late 90s in the
early 90s and after philosophy came the
soft pick where you could grow between
your teeth because there's a plastic
covered with like soft rubber and then
there came the water flossers became
cheaper so more affordable for people to
use it I actually would tell you if you
use this concentrated mouthwash in your
portable water flosser or water flosser
add a full three ml or like one ml of it
into your water flosser and flaw floss
with it you will feel like you had a car
wash of your entire mouth
you would feel like a million bucks I
promise you that this is a unbelievable
product for that particular reason and I
have been doing that and I am personally
become the biggest fan of my own product
yes so it is unbelievable another thing
I've been doing since I actually got in
touch with you so I am a big proponent
of having a healthy microbiome like
yourself so I've actually I ordered one
product of yours the probiotic product
because I wanted to order one and see
what is your products like uh and I'd
heard of your podcast and I'd heard you
at me several instances but never really
fully paid attention unfortunately uh
and I when I ordered these probiotics I
actually have been using that probiotic
I take out one capsule I open it up and
actually use it in the oil pull while
I'm oil pulling on a Saturday or Sunday
still gives me a little bit more time or
actually I've been using it while doing
the concentrated mouthwash now why do I
use your product because it's in a
capsule format so whenever there are
pressed tablets of probiotics
they may write a billion uh bacteria
available with a good bacteria available
but by the time they heat press it most
of it is done and at the end when you
check it there is nothing left at the
end of the shelf life so I think that's
a very good way to add probiotics to
your regimen too well thanks for the
plug we appreciate it yeah you know uh
years ago one of our one of our early
products was actually an oral microbiome
little chew Tab and I was I was that
impressed that we needed to work on the
oral microbiome but unfortunately no one
bought it because no one really thinks
about you're right this is where it all
starts this is where the microbiome
starts so
folks this guy has been Mr Dr mouth for
his entire life his family started in
the mouth
he started in the mouth and you know
it's just great to have really someone
who's devoted his entire career to the
mouth here I was reading on McDonald's
over a billion Burger sold I've actually
between me and my family we've sold over
a billion toothbrushes a billion over a
billion
that that's that's a lot of toothbrushes
tooth brushing really is is kind of only
the start is what I'm hearing from you
so tooth brushing uh there's a four
brush a four part regimen that I profess
first is oil pulling and after oil
pulling it's brushing with a pea-sized
toothpaste and after that it is flossing
and flossing could be with a water
flosser or it could be with either of
the flossing techniques that I talked to
you or spool floss and if you do it
spool floss you have to get into the gum
line a little bit make sure you're
actually using it to clean up your the
bad bacteria between the gum and the
enamel the teeth and the gums so that is
very important and then after that
cooling it off with a concentrated
mouthwash which is this product that
actually works overnight to help you
fight all the bad stuff this oil pulling
product comes with a tongue scraper
inside for free and this is a very old
Indian
ayurvedic technique where you scrape
your tongue so that you get rid of the
plaque on your tongue the reason that is
important is because black formation is
not just on the enamel of the gums it is
also on your tongue and by this you are
mechanically removing that extra plaque
while you are actually exposing your
taste buds so that when you taste when
you eat your food your food eating
habits can change because now you can
signal to your brain better if your
taste buds are around that okay I'm full
stop don't eat more you're you and then
you taste The Taste the food better your
salivary system works better so your
digestion actually improves so this is a
this is mechanically actually helping
your entire gut
microbiome as well by actually doing
tongue scraping I I know a lot of people
means I was on a TV show once and the
woman thought this is some kind of a
soda water yeah it's a bottle opener but
it is actually it comes free with it I'm
giving it free just because I want I
want you to do it use it it's not about
money making here it's all about how do
I get the right dental hygiene to the
people that I'm American dream come true
as an entrepreneur and I want to give
back by bringing good products to the
people who can't afford it thank you
appreciate that
one last thing sesame oil you mentioned
it has a strong ayurvedic tradition of
healing and in my last book it turns out
that sesame oil is actually one of the
best oils to prevent these pieces of
bacteria from getting through the bowel
wall called LPS's lipopolysaccharides
and there's human studies that show two
tablespoons of sesame oil per day
actually dramatically lowers blood
pressure in people who have high blood
pressure
so you know so much of these traditional
wisdom we now
have available tools to study why the
traditional wisdom was correct nobody
knew why it worked back then they didn't
have scientific data but they used it
for ages generation to generation and
India is fortunately a four or five
thousand plus years old Society been
around a while yeah
and uh sesame oil if you look at Japan
and India are the two countries that use
sesame oil the most and sesame oil I
agree with you but with oil pulling
in there sesame oil has inherent
property of actually because it's fatty
how our bodies work is whenever you're
eating uh
processed food for example it is going
and it is being going through your
lymphatic system uh it should but when
your lymphatic system is overloaded the
all the uh bad stuff all the toxins they
get stored in your Warehouse of your
body which is your fat cells so you
become it becomes toxic fat so under
your tongue it's it's almost like a
mechanism where you can pull uh you can
actually use the sesame oil and there is
a doctor called
drip Chaudhary who's a neurologist and
uh
ayurvedic physician combined in San
Diego she talked she has done some work
on it and she's uh talked about how
sesame oil alongside some of these
products are actually helpful by
bringing out all the toxins from those
fat cells out while you're doing so
whatever you collect in your mouth after
10 15 minutes is a lot of toxins out of
your body as you do it slowly so that's
another belief system in ayurveda not as
much studied but that's traditional when
it comes to brushing I do want to talk
one quick thing I've come up with a very
unique brush it's like butter on your
gums because the number one problem with
brushing has been people brush too hard
and as we age come recession takes place
and with this last two three years of
subconscious stress people don't realize
they're actually brushing harder than
normal
and the gum recession activity I have a
lot of dentists friend over 28 000
Rolodex of dentists and
I have seen most of the dentists have
seen uh number one people didn't go to a
dentist for a year number two gum
recession has been inherent because of
the extra subconscious stress because
they've been brushing harder than normal
so I came up with these Special bristles
that are like butter to your gums and
they are very special
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