DONALD TRUMP HIMSELF.
WHY RAID MY HOME WITH A PLATOON
OF FEDERAL AGENTS WHEN I HAVE
VOLUNTARILY COOPERATED WITH
YOUR EVERY REQUEST?
>> ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THAT?
LAST NIGHT WE LEARN FROM THE
NEW YORK TIMES AT THE NATIONAL
ARCHIVES RECOVERED MORE THAN
150 CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS FROM
TRUMP'S FLORIDA HOME IN
JANUARY.
WHICH WAS SQUIRRELS AWAY AND 15
BOXES OF DOCUMENTS.
WE ALSO LEARNED THAT TRUMP
PERSONALLY WENT THROUGH THOSE
DOCUMENTS BEFORE HE TURNED THEM
OVER.
IN A BID TO SOMEHOW HELP THE
FORMER PRESIDENT, RIGHT-WING
MEDIA --
SULLIVAN PUBLISHED A LETTER
FROM THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE TO
ONE OF TRUMP'S LAWYERS.
IT STATED ME.
TENTH SOLOMON HYPED'S LETTER IS
EVIDENT THAT SOMEHOW BIDEN HAS
FIXED THE AND PEI ON TRUMP.
AS IT TURNED OUT, SULLIVAN WAS
SHOOTING HIMSELF OR RATHER,
DONALD TRUMP IN THE FOOT.
FOR STARTERS, THIS LETTER FROM
THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES CONFIRMED
THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTING
THAT OVER 100 DOCUMENTS
RETRIEVED BY THE GOVERNMENT IN
JANUARY FROM MAR-A-LAGO, THAT
THEY WERE MARKED CLASSIFIED.
THE NATIONAL ARCHIVE HAS
DETAILED IT WAS SPECIFICALLY
OVER 700 PACES OF CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION, JUST HANG OUT AT
MAR-A-LAGO.
INCLUDED IN SOME OF THESE WERE
DOCUMENTS FOR SOME OF THE
HIGHEST LEVEL OF CLASSIFICATION
INCLUDING SPECIAL ACCESS
PROGRAM MATERIAL.
WHICH, EVEN IF YOU HAVE TOP
SECURITY CLEARANCE, YOU STILL
NEED ADDITIONAL CLEARANCE TO
SEE THAT KIND OF DOCUMENT.
THE LETTER, AGAIN, THE LETTER
SOMEHOW MEANT TO EXONERATE
TRUMP IMPLICATE BIDEN, IT ALSO
CONFIRMED THE TRUMP AND HIS
CREW HAD BEEN DRAGGING THEIR
FEET FOR WEEKS.
ASSERTING BOGUS CLAIMS OF
EXECUTIVE PRIVILEGE IN AN
ATTEMPT TO DELAY THE DOCUMENT
FOR BEING HANDED OVER TO THE
JUSTICE DEPARTMENT.
BUT WHILE THE ARCHIVES RETRIEVE
THE BOXES OF DOCUMENTS IN
JANUARY, THE FBI AND THE DOJ
DIDN'T GET ACCESS TO THE
CONTENTS OF THOSE BOXES UNTIL
THE MONTH OF MAY.
DONALD TRUMP CLEARLY HAS A
DIFFERENT DEFINITION OF
COOPERATION THAN MOST OF US DO.
BUT THAT IS NOT ALL.
IN JUNE, WHEN THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT OFFICIALS WENT TO
MAR-A-LAGO TO ASK DONALD TRUMP,
HEY, ARE THERE ANY MORE
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS LYING
AROUND?
TRUMP'S FORMER CROSSFIT LAWYER
SAID --
TRUMP HAD HANDED OVER ALL THE
DOCUMENTS.
SHE SIGNED A STATEMENT SAYING,
YES, THAT IS THE.
NOTHING ELSE TO SEE HERE, FOLKS.
BUT EVEN AFTER THE VISIT, EVEN
AFTER TRUMP'S ATTORNEY SWORE
THERE WAS NO MORE CLASSIFIED
DOCUMENTS AND MAR-A-LAGO,
DOUBLE PINKY SWEAR, THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WAS NOT CONVINCED.
SO IN AUGUST 8TH, THE FBI
EXECUTED A SEARCH WARRANT WHERE
THEY FOUND, YOU GUESSED IT,
MORE DOCUMENTS AT MAR-A-LAGO
MARKED, TOP SECRET.
THE NEW YORK TIMES REPORTED
LATE LAST NIGHT THAT INFECT
FEDERAL AGENTS IN TOTAL
RETRIEVED OVER 300 CLASSIFIED
DOCUMENTS, WITH HUNDREDS OF
HUNDREDS OF PAGES OF CLASSIFIED
MATERIAL FROM MAR-A-LAGO.
THAT RECORD OF --
AND FOOT-DRAGGING, AND FALSE
STATEMENTS IS APPARENTLY DONALD
TRUMP'S DEFINITION OF COMPLETE
COOPERATION.
AND WE HAVE BREAKING NEWS
TONIGHT ABOUT THAT SUPPOSED
COOPERATION.
THE WASHINGTON POST REPORTS
WHAT HAPPENS WHEN ARCHIVES
FIRST THROUGH THE DARKNESS OF
JANUARY.
QUOTE, WOULD EMPLOYEES BEGAN
OPENING UP AND SIFTING THROUGH
MATERIAL, THEY NOTICED AN
IMMEDIATE PROBLEM.
THE BOXES OF RIDE WITHOUT ANY
KIND OF LOGS OR INVENTORIES TO
DESCRIBE THEIR CONTENT,
ACCORDING TO A PERSON FAMILIAR
WITH THE RECOVERY.
INSTEAD, THEY CONTAINED A
HODGEPODGE OF DOCUMENTS
INCLUDING SOME DID NOT EVEN
COME FROM TRUMP'S TIME IN THE
WHITE HOUSE.
BUT SOME OF THE WHITE HOUSE
RECORDS IT OBVIOUS MARKINGS
INDICATING THEY WERE CLASSIFIED.
AND PC NEWS HAS NOT YET
CONFIRMED THIS REPORTING.
THE WASHINGTON POST REPORT
CONTINUES TO DRAW CHRONICLE HOW
THE FBI CONDUCTED ITS FULL
INVESTIGATION.
AND JUST HOW, JUST PRECISELY
HOW INVOLVED DONALD TRUMP WAS
PERSONALLY WITH OVERSEEING THE
DOCUMENT.
QUOTE, --
IT CAME TO AN UNEASY DISK
CONCLUSION.
THE FBI PROCEED WITH INTERVIEWS
WITH OTHERS IN TRUMP'S ORBIT
INCLUDING THAT LIES --
[INTERPRETER]
AND TRUMP WHITE HOUSE.
STAFFERS THEY SAID TRUMP WAS A
PACKER WHO HAD BEEN PERSONALLY
OVERSEEING HIS COLLECTION OF
WHITE HOUSE RECORD SINCE EVEN
BEFORE LEAVING WASHINGTON.
AND HAD BEEN RELUCTANT TO
RETURN ANYTHING.
THE FBI BECAME INCREASINGLY
CONVINCED THAT THE FORMER
PRESIDENT CONTINUE TO HOLD
CLASSIFIED DOCUMENTS IN
FLORIDA.
THEY COULD NOT BEAT DETERMINE
WHO WAS INVOLVED WITH CHECKING
THE BOXES AT MAR-A-LAGO OR WHY
SOME WHITE HOUSE DOCUMENTS WERE
NOT SENT TO THE ARCHIVE.
THE PEOPLE FAMILIAR WITH THE
EPISODES THE TRUMP OVERSAW THE
PROCESS HIMSELF.
AND DID SO WITH GREAT SECRECY,
DECLINED TO SHOW SOME ITEMS
EVEN TO HIS TOP AIDES.
SOME MATERIAL RECOVERED IN THE
SEARCH IS CONSIDERED
EXTRAORDINARILY SENSITIVE,
BECAUSE IT COULD REVEAL
CAREFULLY GUARDED SECRETS ABOUT
U.S. INTELLIGENCE GATHERING
METHODS.
ONE OF THEM SAID THE
INFORMATION IS AMONG THE MOST
SENSITIVE SECRETS WE HOLD.
AROUND THAT TIME, TRUMP
ATTORNEYS EVAN CORCORAN AND
CHRISTINA --
TOGETHER PROVIDED THE JUSTICE
DEPARTMENT WITH A WRITTEN
INSURANCE ABOUT TRUMP HAVING
RETURNED CLASSIFIED MATERIALS.
A PERSON FAMILIAR WITH THE
MATTER SAID.
THEY'D NOT [INTERPRETER]
A PERSON FAMILIAR WITH THE
MATTER IS THAT THE DOCUMENT IS
OF INTEREST TO THE FBI, WHICH
IS INVESTIGATING THE VERACITY
OF THIS CLAIM.
JOINING US NOW IS WASHINGTON
POST NATIONALIST, --
CAROL, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR
BEING HERE.
IT IS BREAKING AND IT IS
EXPLOSIVE.
I THINK THE FIRST THING THAT
GRABBED ME IN THIS ARTICLE IS
JUST HOW DEEPLY THE FORMER
PRESIDENT APPEARS TO HAVE BEEN
IN SELECTING THESE DOCUMENTS.
WHAT MORE CAN YOU TELL US ABOUT
THAT?
>> WHAT IS CLEAR IN BOTH THE
INTERVIEWS YOU HAVE DONE WITH
SOURCES AND ALSO AS REVEALED IN
A LOT OF YOUR RECORDS AND
LETTERS THAT ARE COMING OUT, IS
THAT THE PRESIDENT WAS VERY
INVOLVED, THE FORMER PRESIDENT
WAS VERY INVOLVED IN, AT THE
LAST MINUTE HASTILY CHAOTICALLY
PACKING UP HIS DOCUMENTS THAT
HE SOUGHT WERE QUOTE UNQUOTE
HIS.
AND ARRANGING FOR THEM TO BE
TAKEN TO MAR-A-LAGO, HIS
PRIVATE CLUB AND PART-TIME
RESIDENTS.
AND THAT ALSO IMPORTANTLY, ALEX,
DESPITE THE FORMER PRESIDENTS
CLAIM THAT ALL HE'S DONE IS
BEEN COOPERATIVE, WHAT WE FOUND
IS THAT WEEK AFTER WEEK HE WAS
THE PERSON RESISTING PROVIDING
RECORDS.
HE WAS THE PERSON ALONG WITH
HIS LAWYERS ASKING FOR A DELAY
IN ALLOWING THE FBI, FOR
EXAMPLE, TO LOOK OVER THE
CLASSIFIED RECORDS THAT THEY
FOUND TO THEIR HORROR, TO THE
SHOP, IN A GROUP OF 15 BOXES OF
RECORDS THAT THEY RETREAT FROM
MAR-A-LAGO.
AND SO THE PRESIDENT IS REALLY,
THE FORMER PRESIDENT'S VERILY
VERY MUCH AT THE CENTER OF THIS
DRAMA.
AND NOW, HIS OWN ADVISERS,
LEGAL AND OTHERWISE, ARE
GROWING INCREASINGLY CONCERNED
AND HAVE BEEN SINCE JUNE.
THAT THIS IS A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION IN WHICH THE
FORMER PRESIDENT IS IN LEGAL
JEOPARDY, ULTIMATELY OF HIS OWN
MAKING.
THAT IS, PERHAPS, IF HE UTTERED
OVER THE RECORDS WILLINGLY AND
FORCED RIGHTLY, RIGHT AWAY IN
JANUARY DECEMBER, OR IN THE
FALL OF 2021.
ALL OF THESE TIMES THAT IT WAS
ASKED FOR, IT MIGHT NOT HAVE
MORPHED INTO A CRIMINAL
INVESTIGATION LOOKING AT THE
WILLFUL RETENTION OF SOME OF
THE HIGHEST AND MOST SENSITIVE
SECRETS OUR GOVERNMENT HOLES.
>> YEAH, I THINK WE SHOULD
FOCUS ON THAT A LITTLE BIT.
THIS IS IT LIKE A FORMER
PRESIDENT SITTING AT HIS
KITCHEN TABLE LEAFING THROUGH
MEMORABILIA THAT HE MISTAKENLY
BROUGHT HOME.
YOU SPECIFICALLY SAY IN THE
STORY THAT HE WAS GOING THROUGH
THE DOCUMENTS WITH GREAT
SECRECY, DECLINED TO SHOW SOME ITEMS EVEN TO TOP AIDES.
ITEMS EVEN TO TOP AIDES.
THIS IS THE KATIE PHANG SHOW
AND WHEN WE TALK ABOUT, CAROL?
SOME OF THE MOST SENSITIVE,
SECRETS WE HOLD.
CAN YOU TALK MORE ABOUT THAT?
AND JUST THE AMOUNT OF NOT ONLY
THE RECOGNITION OF THAT AMONG
THE PEOPLE REPORTING, BUT
WITHIN TRUMP'S CIRCLE IT SOUNDS
LIKE NOBODY REALLY WANTED TO
TOUCH THIS CASE WITH A TEN FOOT
POLE.
>> SUCH A GOOD POINT AND I
PROMISE WE WILL CIRCLE BACK TO
THAT, ALEX, ABOUT THE 24 POLL
THAT A LOT OF PEOPLE WERE
AVOIDING TAKING HOLD OF.
YOUR FIRST QUESTION, ABOUT THE
SENSITIVITY OF THIS MATERIAL,
AS DESCRIBED IN THE INVENTORY,
SOME OF THIS MATERIAL IS TOP
SECRET.
SECURE COMPARTMENTED
INFORMATION.
THAT MEANS THE PEOPLE HAVE TO,
AS YOU DESCRIBED EARLIER SO
WELL, PEOPLE HAVE TO HAVE AN
ABSOLUTE REASON TO KNOW AND
ACCESS THIS INFORMATION IS PART
OF THEIR JOB.
IT HAS TO BE SOMEONE WHO'S
INCREDIBLY TRUSTWORTHY AND HAD
THIS VERY HIGH SECURITY
CLEARANCE AND USUALLY SECURE
COMPARTMENTED INFORMATION
INVOLVES INTELLIGENCE GATHERING
METHODS THE RECORD THAT WERE
SEIZED ON AUGUST 8TH, JUST AS
THE FBI AND THE DEPARTMENT OF
JUSTICE FEARED, WERE SOME OF
THOSE HOLIEST OF HOLY KINDS OF
RECORDS.
THAT IS SHARED INDISCRIMINATELY
OR HANDLED CARELESSLY IN A
PRIVATE RESTAURANT, CLUB --
IF EVER DISCLOSED WOULD CAUSE
IMMEDIATE, GRAVE DANGER TO
NATIONAL SECURITY.
BECAUSE IT WOULD REVEAL HOW THE
U.S. GATHERS THE INTELLIGENCE
THAT IT HAS.
THAT INCLUDES, FOR EXAMPLE,
WHICH ALLIES PROVIDE US SPECIAL
INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE DON'T SHARE
WITH OTHERS.
THAT INCLUDES, FOR EXAMPLE,
COVERT PROGRAMS THAT WE HAVE
THE GATHER INTELLIGENCE AND IF
THOSE DETAILS WERE REVEALED TO
A FORM WRITTEN ADVERSARY, OUR
CHANCES OF PROTECTION NATIONAL
SECURITY WOULD BE GREATLY
DIMINISHED, GRAVE --
YOU ASKED THAT QUESTION ABOUT
PEOPLE WHO DURING THIS PERIOD
WHO WORKED FOR DONALD TRUMP OR
WERE IN THE TRUMP ORBIT TRY TO
AVOID BEING INVOLVED IN THIS
CASE.
STARTING IN THE FALL OF 2021,
DONALD TRUMP WAS RESISTING
TURNING OVER RECORDS HE
BELIEVED WERE QUOTE UNQUOTE,
MINE MEANING HIS.
AND THE ARCHIVES KNEW THAT HE
HAD A LOT OF RECORDS.
THE THINGS WERE MISSING, AND
THAT THEY NEEDED THEM.
EVENTUALLY, DONALD TRUMP'S TEAM
TURNED OVER 15 BOXES OF
RECORDS.
THE SHOCKER FOR PEOPLE WHO HAD
PREVIOUSLY WORKED IN PRESIDENT
TRUMP'S WHITE HOUSE COUNSEL
OFFICE WAS THAT THOSE RECORDS
INCLUDED HIGHLY CLASSIFIED
MATERIALS.
WHEN THEY WERE NOTIFIED, IN
PARTICULAR PATRICK PHILBIN,
WHEN HE WAS NOTIFIED IN APRIL
THAT THE NATIONAL ARCHIVES
FOUND THAT THERE WAS CLASSIFIED
INFORMATION IN THESE DOCUMENTS,
HE WAS STUNNED.
AND HE WAS BEING ASKED AT THAT
TIME TO HELP TEAM TRUMP REVIEW
THE RECORDS.
TO GO UP TO THE NATIONAL
ARCHIVES AND REVIEW WHAT HAD
BEEN TURNED OVER AND FIGURE OUT
WHAT ARE IN THESE BOXES, WHICH
YOU WOULD THINK THEY WOULD'VE
LOOKED BEFORE BUT PATRICK
PHILBIN AND OTHERS BACKED AWAY
FROM THIS REQUEST BY TEAM TRUMP
AND PRETTY SOON THE FBI WAS
KNOCKING ON THEIR DOORS ASKING
THE DEPUTY WHITE HOUSE
COUNSEL'S, WE NEED TO INTERVIEW
YOU.
YOU ARE NOW A SUBJECT WITNESS.
YOU MAY BE A WITNESS FOR US
ABOUT WHAT IS GOING ON IN THIS
HOLDING OF WOULD APPEAR TO BE
INCREDIBLY SENSITIVE DOCUMENTS.
>> AT THIS POINT, CAN YOU