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Why does my Bathroom Smell like Rotten Eggs, Sewer, the Trap Primer Needs Replacement

hello and welcome to another episode of

Ken's training today's training is going

to be on a

restroom floor drain trap primer the

call came through today's a Monday call

came through on a Friday after we had

gone home hey the bathroom area smells

like a sewer came in on on Monday and

the bathroom didn't smell but the first

thing I wanted to check was the floor

drain I checked it with my flashlight

I'll show you that in a second and sure

enough the trap at the bottom of the

floor drain is dry indicating that the

trap primer which is this small plumbing

device that's about this big and what it

does is is it interconnects into the

cold water line as someone flushes a

toilet or something like this it's it

does a little spurt of water like this

every time someone does something and it

just constantly bleeds the small amount

of water into the into the floor drain

p-trap in an effort to prevent soil

gases from backing up mind you this only

happens when the sore gas system has a

positive pressure right now the trap I

haven't been primed it manually I've

just left it alone and there's no sore

gases in here because the source system

right now is either at a atmospheric

pressure or below atmospheric pressure

so it's not in positive pressure so is

so that's it and then I'll show you the

steps that we need to to fix and

troubleshoot this all right here's the

floor drain in the restroom now you're

looking through a grate so it can be

difficult to see so what I do is I take

my flashlight I put it through that just

lay it there on top and then while I'm

looking down it what I'll do is a la see

if I can't get you the best angle what

you want to do is you want to see the

exact bottom of the of the trapping on

let me just I'm just trying to show you

this as best I can it might take a

second for me to get the best angle I

don't see here

right there possibly now I keep going

out of focus

anyways that that you know when you're

looking at it in person up through the

camera it's dry so next thing you want

to do is you want to locate where the

trap primer is located so what you do is

you look along your wall here and you're

looking for access hands so I go over

here to this to the next stall middle

stall there's two panels here to access

panels so I already opened them up this

one over here is housing for a shutoff

valve so if there's a problem use that

blue handle valve and you shut off the

water to these toilets over here is

where the access panel should have been

located for the trap primer but when you

look in here you'll see that the only

thing I'm looking at there is a two inch

sewer pipe or vent pipe there's no trap

primer right here so what it did was is

I got my inspection mirror and I started

looking around and I and put my

flashlight in here it's going to be a

little hard to do with all three hands

here

so what I did was as I looked around

here to try to find where the trap

primer is so this is the way that I

found it so when I was using that method

I did find it and I'll show you where

it's located

it is located right in this stall right

behind that blue tape now using the

inspection mirror I could see that there

was a piece of wood on this side where

so goes ceramic tile there's a two inch

or an inch inch and a half thick block

of wood like a two by six and then they

put on the other side of that

primer so what I have to do is I need to

go into the wall that's on the other

side of the wall here and I'll show you

that right now to show you what that

looks like it's in an electrical room

alright so here I am in the electrical

room and just utilizing a tape measure

we have determined that right where that

blue tape is that right there right on

the other side of that drywall is where

the trap primer is approximately located

you see this is a not a good situation I

have all these conduits that I got to

deal with I'm not going to be able to

turn my wrenches very much but I am

committed because this is where it's

located that is the part that has failed

this is where I need to gain access to

when next thing is to break open this

wall see what we can find

okay so I open up the first access hole

and now you can actually see the trap

primer located right there you see a

bunch of calcium deposits located here

at the top as if it's been I don't know

in a poor condition for a long time

there is a shutoff valve with the blue

handle right here and there is a union

right there where I could potentially

break this thing apart going to be tough

to get wrenches on this whole thing no

matter what I do even turning the wrench

is because of this limited access you

can also see that 2x6 block of wood I

had talked about earlier there it is

right there this is the prevailing

reason well there's a couple of reasons

also I didn't have to disturb the

ceramic tile so coming on this side

makes much more logical sense and going

on the other side all I've got is

drywall no ceramic but because of that

block of wood it would have been silly

to go on the other side anyways but on

this side of the wall I do have a whole

bunch of conduits so I don't even know

if it's going to be possible but my

first step is going to be to shut that

water off with the blue handle and then

break this thing apart and then see if I

can't remove this assembly and clean it

out if I can fix it great if not I'll

have to replace it with some type of a

replacement

that's what I'm going to be working on

right now and I'll see if I can't break

that apart with a couple of wrenches if

not off to use a small tubing cutter the

micro tubing cutter they actually cut

that half-inch copper right there line

in order to get this thing apart so I

can start spinning it out so that's what

I'm working on now okay I got the trap

primer out of the wall here it is right

here it says that it's a model PPP track

primer model P - - and anyways there it

is right there you got severe

calcium-magnesium on the top looking at

it straight up and down okay like that

see a bunch of frustation in there it's

possible that if this is just going to

have to be replaced up cleaning up take

it apart clean it up see what I can do

otherwise I'll just have to get another

another one of those trapped primers and

it might have one in inventory

downstairs one other problem that I

experienced was is that even though I

had this blue valve half-inch valve shut

off the

it was leaking pretty bad and it started

leaking down and flooding out this area

pretty bad so I had to go inside the

woman's restroom and shut off the valve

upstream of this one and and so even

though the valve upstream of this one is

shut off you can still see that this one

here is dripping so another problem that

we're experiencing we're trying to

capture that with the bucket down there

right now but you know just part of the

plumbing problems that you come across

so while the restroom is out of service

because I've got the toilets off we'll

work on this right now it's okay we are

underneath the sink here's the trap

primer and I we took it apart cleaned

out there's a strainer right in this

section I cleaned out that strainer I

tried to adjust the needle seat the

valve here which which is like operating

an internal plunger and then I just

connected a 3/8 inch to 1/2 inch metal

flexible line so I could do a test out

here without going in the wall so when

you open the valve this is how much

water comes out I tried to adjust it

here it's just it is not allowing me to

adjust I've played around with it I've

been playing with this few minutes here

trying to get it to get a better

adjustment here but no matter what I do

just keep doing that so it looks like

this part is just not going to work for

us at all we're going to get a

replacement try so here we are back here

we have our brand new

trap primer which is right here it's a

my fam

and it was about $45 a turbine pipe and

supply the overall size is almost

identical to the one I removed it's

slightly shorter but I'm not going to be

installing it with the Union the way

that they had it what I've got what I've

already done is I've already cut out

where the union was located and what I'm

going to do is I'm going to put this

flared poly tubing on here are like that

with the hose clamp one here at the top

and one one here at the bottom so I've

cut out a small section of pipe this

here was the inside the wall was the

Union right there so basically I already

cut this section out so I'm going to put

in a new cut polyvinyl from here to here

and just connect it with hose clamps I

already got that on there with brand new

teflon tape that's ready that's that's

fresh teflon tape here ready to screw in

when I screw it in I'll try to have it

so that the nameplate is facing me so

it's easy to read if I can and I like to

clear the clear vinyl because this way

when it's in operation I can hopefully

see the water discharging out of it so

the next shot you'll see is actually

installed

alright here's the final product inside

the wall I've got the valve opened I had

a couple of leaks that were leaking

right around right around that joint

right there but pretty much got those

leaks solved up now we've got it all the

water turned on and now I'm going to

show you the operation of how this works

I've got my assistant inside flushing

the toilet now you'll notice that every

time he flushes the toilet it's going to

disperse through that clear tubing right

there a small amount of liquid right

there did you see that that's going to

the trap in the floor and that so that

means that every time someone uses the

toilet just a small amount of that

liquid right there water is just going

to keep that trap primed and that's just

how it operates so there you go I just

wanted to give you a demonstration show

you the final product there it is right

there

okay all that's left here is to patch up

the wall but whenever I make a plumbing

repair what I what I like to do is I

like to leave the the the wall open for

at least 24 hours and then we'll come

back here tomorrow we'll check down

inside here to make sure that everything

is dry and that and also we'll check the

piping is to make sure that there's no

leaks that we have to to address because

I certainly don't want to button up the

wall right away with potentially a water

leak and back of there and this is just

an electrical room closet so we'll just

simply wait okay so I just want to

explain that and and that's it thank you

you