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well howdy everyone is 4/20 grower here

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and today I want to do video about route

Athens because I got him and I want to

give a shout out to Danny Bell because

he left a comment and he said hey I

agree or your crop look doesn't look on

par and maybe it's rude aphids or mites

and I said no I don't think so and

anyway I chopped them down and I grabbed

some of the roots and the first sample I

looked at I didn't find anything so I

figured out I'm just being paranoid

but I figured well let's grab another

one so I grabbed another one of the

smaller ones because there really wasn't

that much root development barely a

single plant even made it out of the net

pot into the mat underneath so I put

that one under a USB microscope look

around and sure enough I found a couple

of them in there now they were white and

they were fairly large but you know what

I want to say there's a lot of kinds of

rude acids and they can be white they

can be black they can be green I don't

know if the ones that get on your leaves

can also colonize the roots but anyway I

had last time around years ago I had

them and I had these really small white

translucent ones that people call minis

and they are they were a [ __ ] to get

rid of these are bigger I didn't see a

lot of them so I think I just kind of

caught it it was in my other closet I'm

in my numb

to closet right now and I'll tell you

what if you have it in anywhere in you

grow it's everywhere in your growth so

you're gonna need to take precautions

now the thing you need to know about

aphids they reproduce really fast the

females are born pregnant so as soon as

they start feeding they start laying

eggs and not only that while they're

feeding on the roots they're injecting

toxins into the roots that prevent them

from growing back so they are also a

transmitter or viruses so they're bad

[ __ ] you want to take care of them you

want to get rid of them they make fliers

and they don't all and they don't do it

all the time but the fliers look a lot

like fungus gnats except they're a

little bit more heavily armoured if you

have fungus gnats you you have a good

chance of having root athens - and i

don't want to scare you but you know

fungus gnats they feed on eat off in the

soil and on roots and the aphids they

screw the roots up and they make them

real palatable so if you have flyers I

would really suggest going online and

looking at some side-by-side pictures of

fungus gnat and a root a rude aphid

flier now the fliers will spread


they don't live long but they get to a

new spot they mate and they drop their

their pregnant children into your pots

and there you go the thing about these

because they are munching on the roots

your plants can start to show weird

deficiencies when they're really not

deficiencies it's something eating at

the root

and I saw that in the last girl in here

and in my other girl and I thought it

was a calcium deficiency but I don't

really think it was I think it was

caused from the Rue de fat damage now

something interesting in this closet

some of these plants are I'm gonna lift

this up it's on a tripod some of these

plants are doing really well there is a

bunch of other plants jammed in the side

getting ready for the other closet but

if you look at them this side a lot of

them are not this one over here you see

the yellow leaves on it I don't think

that's a nutrient deficiency I think

that's on the Rue de fizzy ting on it

and it's not as big as say the one next

to it or you know and then these tall

ones and back those are math ones so

don't pay attention to them they're in

solo cups but you can sort of get an

idea that the canopy here is much higher

and these first nine plants than it is

in the next three and then everything

else is smaller now you know I've had

issues where some of my clones really

would take off like these here and then

some would be smaller like some of those

over there in this first row I thought

it had a lot to do with the clones and

in a way it does I actually think the

smaller ones have rude aphid damage I

think luckily I just caught it in time

because I didn't really see a whole lot

when you have them really bad they'll

sometimes be all over so the way you

deal with them is they're in the soil or

your even this I'm in gross tones and I

still have you need to drench

and there's a couple of ways to do that

you can drench from the top or if you're

in net pots like me you can put them in

a bucket and you know submerge them kind

of and drench them that way

flood and drain is easy you can mix the

mix stuff in your reservoir and you can

flood the trays and make sure you know

all the the media is covered and make

sure you you have to get it everywhere

also when it comes to watering if your

in soil or cocoa you really don't want

it to be dry you want it to be at what's

called Field capacity which means moist

you can squeeze stuff moist soil that

fuel capacity if you squeeze it it'll

kind of hold its shape but it won't it

won't turn into a ball of goo anyway you

want them fairly moist when you treat

them and that way they'll actually take

up what you're going to use to kill the

root aphids now as far as getting rid of

them I know some people are organic and

there is some organic stuff you can use

I can tell you right now these things

are really hard to kill and honestly in

my opinion you need to go nuclear I use

chemicals that's how I got rid of them

last time you can [ __ ] around with a lot

of other [ __ ] and it won't kill them

I've tried and other people recommend

neem oil they recommend stuff and soapy

water which messes up your roots there

is an organic product called batana

gourd that has a fungus in it that

messes with them and you can use that if

your organic it's expensive it's like

pretty close it's around 80 bucks a

bottle and I don't know how much you use

I didn't really check it out because I'm

not or

anok there's a lot of different ways you

can do this but I go the chemical route

and I would suggest you do too there is

a third option and that's you make sure

your insurance is paid up and you burn

your place down and you look for a new

place to grow that's the the third

option but if you only do one thing

chances are they're going to come back

they have a really short reproductive

cycle they breed like crazy and they the

eggs can be really hard to kill so it's

going to be you're going to need to do

whatever you use you're going to need to

use multiple treatments around five days

apart and at least three of them to make

sure they're all gone so for me what I

use is this right here they're at 75

wettable powder now if you don't know

anything about that

it's imd or a medical or pronate I don't

know if I'm saying it right

anyway it's IMD it's fairly safe for

humans it's really bad for bees and most

of us don't have bees in our grow room

think about it it's systemic so your

plants will take it up okay and that

means that when these buggers start

feeding on your roots they take it in

they dye it you don't want to use it any

chemicals at all in flower so if you're

in veg and you have them do not flower

until you're sure they're gone okay

because once they get in flower your

options are really limited for flower

you're gonna have to use something like

botanic garden from what I hear it's not

only expensive but it's a pretty high

application rate

so I think you know you'll have to look

further about your options I'm gonna

tell you what I'm gonna do and and what

has worked for me before there's a

couple different approaches some people

say go in spray with peripheral you know

which is considered organic it's

basically a chrysanthemum flower

derivative and that's a quick knockdown

that'll kill the ones that are there but

then you've got to come back in and

you've got to use a systemic and there's

two and I'm gonna be using both I'm not

going to do the quick knockdown one now

people use the pur theorem some people

use a product called spectra side but

I'm not too worried about it I don't

think I have a super heavy infestation

just enough to cause some problems so

I'm going to use the Merritt it's real

easy it's one teaspoon per 10 gallons if

you're running a recirculating system

you can put it in your res make sure

everything absorbs it and then probably

run it for a while and then you know

drain your reservoir and and you can

feed at the same time the other chemical

and I don't I have it but I don't have a

can in front of me is acephate an

acephate is some heavy-duty [ __ ] first

of all it smells like death in a can

which it is they actually say extension

did you know trials with the baton Agard

and the IMD and the acephate and they

said the acephate was the most effective

it had like a 98% kill rate nothing is

going to be a hundred percent that's why

you have to use more than one treatment

the acetate it smells terrible and the

dose on that

is between 1/3 and 2/3 of a teaspoon per


both of these chemicals or wettable

powders they dissolve easily as far as

cost goes the acephate is about 22 bucks

and the merit runs 34 to 57 it just

depends on whether you buy the generic

imb or you buy the brand me personally I

bought the brand I don't know if the

generic was even around when I got this

this [ __ ] will last forever and you can

use it for other bugs too you look at it

and you go with I have to spend you know

70 bucks to save my crops your crops got

to be worth more than 70 bucks otherwise

you better stop growing and take up

another hobby when I have a bug I want

it gone once and done I don't want to

[ __ ] around with a ton of other [ __ ]

I've had mites and I tried neem and I

tried a Xamax and I screwed my plants up

big time so I went out and I got a

commercial I think it's avid or for bid

which is like a once and done it's not

it's not cheap it's expensive but you

spray it once it kills all stages and

they're gone and they don't come back

and for me that's what I want so some

people will say if your plants are

healthy they can you know deal with a

few rude aphids and I would have to say

considering how fast they replicate

there's gonna come a point real quick

where they will not be able to keep up I

mean you're basically stressing your

plants these things are eating your

roots and your plants are trying to grow

more roots and

you know they they keep eating them and

they keep trying to grow more and all

that is happening at the expense of

sending energy to you know growth and

also you know to get nutrients into your

plants so anyway I wanted to talk about

the brood aphids because they are a

problem they are really bad honestly I

don't know where mine came from I could

have had a fly or get in they usually

fly in the fall when it starts to get

cold one of them could have gotten my

house and you know drop some eggs

somewhere and it found its way I want to

say aside from treating these you really

have to thoroughly clean your grow areas

all your pots all your utensils all your

trays disinfect them for me I use ozone

so when the room is empty I use ozone

and if there's an egg in there it's dead

you know but I can't use it on plants so

you know it's kind of like a thing you

got a deal with the whole thing get

everything clean again everything killed

in your plants and they'll be gone if

you skip a step somewhere they're going

to come back got a deal with it if

you're growing sooner or later you're

gonna get bugs I mean they're everywhere

it's not about being a good grower or a

bad grower or anything like that

bugs exists and bugs eat plants some do

and you know at some point you're going

to get them so anyway rude aphids is

something that you get it you really

have to get serious about it and deal

with it quick

so anyway not to change the subject

but these plants were put in veg the and

I was gonna flip them and you know about

a week or so

and now that they've been treated

they're probably gonna be delayed I know

from experience that if I do my Merritt

and I do my acephate and I do three apps

you know there won't be any okay so I'm

gonna have to delay flowering at least a

week maybe more want to make sure

they're gone and like I said there are

growth problems between these and these

over here and I want them all to catch

up so there's no point being in a hurry

we all want our stuff we want a flower

you know we don't want to veg forever

but you don't want a try and shore cut

and throw something in flower that

shouldn't be in flower because once it's

got a problem your options are really

really limited so anyhow I hope this

video helped I hope none of you ever get

these little [ __ ] but if you do this

is kind of how you deal with it so until

I see you again y'all take care happy


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